79 desysops..bah..I bet we will have over 100 de-sysops in 2008..Most admins quit /leave for two reasons..1 being that they are really stressed and need to relax so temp wikibreak and secondly, they didn't anticipate that being an admin means so much work and so they give up because they can't really cope with the rising number of editors/vandals and "wikidrama" (f or some )..Cometstyles..
On Dec 29, 2007 12:00 AM, wikien-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
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- Re: De-sysoppings in the year of 2007 (Ray Saintonge)
- Re: Wired predictions, 2008 (Ray Saintonge)
- Re: New arbitrators named (Ray Saintonge)
- Re: De-sysoppings in the year of 2007 (David Gerard)
- Re: [WikiEn-L] Interesting fact (Mathias Schindler)
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:52:18 -0800 From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] De-sysoppings in the year of 2007 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4774B942.8080404@telus.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Jonathan (Wikipedia) wrote:
Majorly wrote:
Admins are allowed to get tired of it. They aren't forced to do
anything. It
can be very stressful.
Yet again, I understand that side of the story. But admins who retire because of a grudge against another user is nonsensical to me.
Maybe so, but then that's their problem, not yours.
Ec
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:02:19 -0800 From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wired predictions, 2008 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4774BB9B.9030309@telus.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Nathan wrote:
I foresee a long trial with many evidentiary hearings, and an exploration into the 'body' of work we could draw from to see if there are any other fair use images!
If the breasts are in the pub[l]ic domain, fair use restrictions may not apply.
Ec
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:10:17 -0800 From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New arbitrators named To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4774BD79.9040403@telus.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Nathan wrote:
Following up on this:
If the new slates take effect on Jan 1, and new arbs aren't necessarily considered active on current cases from 2007, what happens on Jan 1 to former arbs involved in still active cases? Especially where they voted to accept a particular case, voted at [[WP:RFAR/proposed decision]], etc.? Presumably, these cases will lack a quorum to make a decision if new arbs don't join?
What would make sense would be for the retiring arbiters to continue participating in cases where they are already participating until tha cases are decided. They just would not be able to get inolved in new ones.
Ec
Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:59:01 +0000 From: "David Gerard" dgerard@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] De-sysoppings in the year of 2007 To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: fbad4e140712280159h60e2109bv3db2e88058e11ccb@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 28/12/2007, Jonathan (Wikipedia) jonathan.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
AGK wrote:
Similarly, nothing new. Wikipedia's expanding, so is the number of desysoppings. We've got better things to worry about, surely. AGK
Yes, I understand that Wikipedia gets more admins with time. But this year had a massive jump in desysops. THAT'S why I'm getting worried.
After long complaints that it was almost impossible to get bad admins removed, they're now getting removed with reasonable efficiency.
- d.
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:51:42 +0100 From: "Mathias Schindler" mathias.schindler@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [WikiEn-L] Interesting fact To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 48502b480712280251p5f47474bj1b179f9229ae566f@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Dec 27, 2007 12:45 AM, Nachman nachman.chayal@gmail.com wrote:
Additionally, it turns out that if intelligence employees have their
names
published on a site like Wikipedia (even without a connection to their position) they are dismissed or transferred to a public position (i.e . public relations).
Nice way of getting rid of a superior who is occupying a job you envy.
Mathias
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