On 7/20/07, K P <kpbotany(a)gmail.com> wrote: It's some of the people who are broken. This come back to my favorite question. "Are you here to participate in writing an online encyclopedia or are you here to do "X"?". Sometimes "X" is deleting stuff. A well rounded editor will see something he thinks is a problem in the course of his other activities, take it to XFD, see what happens, shrug and get on with his wikilife. Someone here just to delete will do everything in his power, good faith or otherwise, to eliminate his chosen targets and rant and rave when he doesn't get his way. As far as new accounts nominating and voting in XFDs, I can assume good faith and consider that he's an experienced anon editor who created the account because anons can't nominate. It's hard to do that when the chosen username is something like "whydoesthisexist".

On 7/21/07, Kurt Maxwell Weber <kmw(a)armory.com> wrote: We care why someone is here in the first place, because, in fact, it appears that those who are not here to write an encyclopedia are the most likely to be those with non-polite, non-amiable interactions, not making useful contributions to article-space. There's a lot of time on Wikipedia spent dealing with certain people, not writing articles. One of my least favorite Wikipedians, a rather weird deletionist, recently threatened to come to plants and start writing articles. I invited him to do so, because, the fact is, he spends so much time freaking out when anyone disagrees with him that the chance he'll ever show up and write an article is 0. He's not here to write an encyclopedia, he's not polite, he's not amiable (although I'd grant him that if he met the first). I don't know what he's here to do, it appears he's here to whine to people and bully them, but that can't be a goal in itself. I like sharing my knowledge and research skills with Wikipedia, plus I work on-line, and I can do it while scanning and editing. It should be a lot more fun than it is, though, and it's not, because there are so many people at Wikipedia who aren't there to write an encyclopedia. Some of our best editors make only insignificant or minute article-space edits, those who copyedit, spellcheck, and do the real janitorial chores, or what would be the real janitorial chores if not for all of the folks here for some other reason. IMO. KP