On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:20 AM, David Gerard
<dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
If you want to know how Flagged Revisions feels from an unprivileged
position, go to Wikinews and fix typos. I just did this on
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Geelong_win_2009_Australian_Football_League_Gra…
- check the history. I'm not an admin or
reviewer on en:wn.
What did it feel like? Curiously unsatisfying. The fix not going live
immediately left me wondering just when it would - five minutes/? An
hour? A day? It felt nothing like editing a wiki - it felt like I'd
submitted a form to a completely opaque bureaucracy for review at
their leisure.
UI fail.
There is no reason for you to know or care that your edit isn't being
displayed to the general public. It's being displayed to you, it's
being displayed to all the other editors, it's being displayed to
anons who click a link to see the latest.
It's our own damn fault for making the UI say the equivalent of "NOW
YOU MUST WAIT WHILE OUR TRIBE OF ELDERS SCRUTINIZES YOUR PATHETIC
EDIT" … we don't have to do it this way, and we shouldn't do it this
way.
The process can and should be made mostly invisible to casual editors.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Surreptitiousness
<surreptitious.wikipedian(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
edits, and they don't get checked in greater
detail. Looking at it,
it's entirely plausible we're going to have people from all over the
world examining edits outside their context. That's going to mean things
will get missed, isn't it? Not saying it isn't any better than the
current model, but at least with the current model someone will not
assume something is good since they will know it hasn't been checked.
The way I see it — What this is about is two fold:
Right now an edit to an article can often go hours before someone
experienced with editing takes a look at it. During that time the
completely unscrutinized edit is displayed to the world. The flagging
changes the failure mode: We display an older edition when review gets
missed.