On 15 Feb 2006, at 22:28, Steve Bennett wrote:
On 2/15/06, Justin Cormack
I dont know if there should be one. I cant tell
from the stub, thats
the problem. The company might be notable (I think that WP:CORP is
a bit restrictive, and should be ignored in many cases). But
software products are often not very notable (if I write the history
of software if wont include much about programs that import and
data). But it of course may be very important; just neither of us
I've expanded the stub now. I understand that software products are
not inherently notable, but let's not confuse some shareware platform
game with expensive, highly specialised data loading software used by
massive companies to transfer enormous quantities of data each day.
Its much more like an initial stub should be now. Its not clear that
it shouldnt be moved to the company but thats ok, it wouldnt lose
anything either way.
I am not sure that price is part of notability in software; I have
written non notable but expensive software.
I would rather
have a good article about ETL including a list of
(that could be redirects) than a bunch of stubs that may never be
A good article about ETL would be great, and some basic information on
the various products - short articles, or collected together - would
be great. I don't know about "never be filled in" - Wikipedia is
supposedly timeless. Compared to many of the really trivial subjects
covered, it's a bit disappointing that the whole domain of data
management, data warehousing, ETL etc is of such low quality.
Maybe time for a bounty...:)
Never filled in is an interesting one. Some things will not be
well enough to write an article if its not written soon. Maybe that will
change if things like internet archive work. Maybe that means they
Yes it is frustrating that so much work goes into trivial subjects and
(despite what some people seem to think) there are vast areas without
even stubs or redlinks. Someone pointed out to me the other day that we
dont have an article on [[Scandinavian design]], the genesis of among
other things [[Ikea]]. I have books lying around my computer that would
provide sources for hundreds of missing articles. Must write one now.