The comparisons being made to NPP are interesting, because I see a lot of the problems NPP does not pick up--the articles which drop off the bottom of the list after a month and consequently that we no longer keep track of, the absolutely lousy articles people often pass over without notice, or with just a tag, when a delete nomination is what is needed, and of course the over-eager or incorrect nominations for deletion. I would say of the pages actually checked, about 20% are being done wrong in one way or another--or perhaps it's 10%. It's still over a hundred pages a day.
If enWikipedia has only 4,000 active editors, and we don't do better at this than, we are going to keep up with only a very few articles. The plan will work , though, for the most watched articles, fortunately where they are needed, because that's the ones where people people catch errors now. In other words, as a substitute for semi-protection for most semi'd pages, not flagging a significant number of pages addition to them. It won't do a thing to reduce the gross vandalism that now gets uncaught for hours. It might provide a clearer focus on the ones that get caught in a few minutes, and keep the vandalism off them for those few minutes. But that's all that can be expected of it
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Surreptitiousness surreptitious.wikipedian@googlemail.com wrote:
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
This is another area where the UI can have a real impact: It's important the it not overstate the level of review that is occurring. Right now flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org is calling the levels "Draft" "Checked" and "quality", but this is under active discussion.
Quality might be pushing it then. I'd suggest "article", but I can't work out how "Checked" fits in. Maybe "Documented" would work better?
Quality is just the default.
"Draft"(unflagged) "Checked" "Reviewed", perhaps?
AFAIK there has been no effort on enwp to figure out what is necessary and sufficient for a higher grade of flagging, I think we generally know what the lowest grade means: It's stuff that you think probably won't be reverted, or some similar low bar.
I think that it may not be useful to worry about the definition of the higher grade of flagging until more people are comfortable with how the feature works in practice. Baby steps.
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