On 20/08/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net>
Why do you think it's such a bad idea? I
don't expect that the WMF
would go mad starting lawsuits all over the place. Most likely it could
happen when there has been a serious corruption of the underlying
copyleft principles by some person in the distant future. It's a matter
of looking ahead. Individuals just do not have the clout to deal with
serious breaches of copyright, and when their efforts are masked by a
long series of subsequent edits the abusers can get around that by
challenging the individual's right to litigate. An infringement suit
still needs to be preceded by a registration of one's claims. How do
you propose that such a registration be formulated? Can one individual
act on behalf of all the other individuals in making such a
registration. I think the WMF would do better periodically sending in a
data dump of the entire site for copyright registration.
For an example of an unrepentant GFDL violator, look at Baidupedia.
We're dealing with them merely by Anthere publicly saying "this isn't
the right way to do it." And they could comply to the standard of
other mirror sites *really easily*. They don't even have to link back
to Wikipedia, they could just include dumps of the history page and
release their changes under GFDL. That would pass in any sensible
court, I'd think.
Note the way the FSF and gpl-violations.org
do it - they don't seek
cash or takedowns, they seek *compliance*. Because compliance isn't
that hard and isn't that onerous. But people need to be helped to
understand copyleft and free content if they don't get it, and helping
them do that is thoroughly in line with the aims of the projects and
Fair enough. I agree that compliance is our ultimate aim in these
disputes. Getting things taken down has no real benefit for copyleft.
The right of agency would be a means rather than an end. Having a tool
in your toolbox means it's available to be used in the right
circumstances. When your rival knows that, he can be more easily
convinced that he is not dealing with a paper tiger.