You are setting up a false contradiction. 'Collusion', in Bryan's words,
might have existed off the public list, once the evidence has been presented
to the entire set. Matthew specifically laid that possibility open, in fact.
On Nov 27, 2007 9:43 PM, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 2007 11:12 AM, Bryan Derksen
<bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
Guy Chapman aka JzG wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:04:44 -0700, Bryan Derksen
> <bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
>> A major line is crossed when that "private letting-off of steam"
results
>> in administrators blocking users and
then refusing to reveal why they
>> did it, though. This wasn't just some private venting session that
leaked.
>> If an administrator were to block
someone with the explanation "I ran
>> this by some people on an IRC channel and they okayed it, but I can't
>> tell you who or where or why", that would quite rightly result in a
>> furore. "Some people on an IRC channel" don't have any authority
to
okay
anything.
I completely agree. I think I've even said as much. The point here
is that this would not mean it was IRC that was to blame for the
cock-up, it would be the admin's fault.
I would also want to know who "some people" were, and whether they
really thought they had the authority to okay this or if the admin was
just blowing smoke about having their support.
If Durova "simply screwed up", fine, her bad. But if there's a group of
like-minded editors who were colluding on this and she just happens to
have had the bad luck to take the fall, I don't want the rest to meekly
and secretively creep back to whatever they were doing behind closed
doors that resulted in this happening. I want to make sure this attitude
and this bad process is rooted out.
Bryan, I've read through this e-mail thread, and in it I see both
Matthew and Guy saying clearly and unequivocally that Durova did not
even *propose* blocking !! on the private lists, much less get
approval for it. Do you think they are both lying?
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