David Friedland wrote:

> On behalf of Kingturtle, who claims to be unable to post to the list,
> I would like to call everyone's attention to his post on:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration
>
> He says:
>
>> Many of the higher level decisions regarding wikipedia are not
>> discussed or made within wikipedia-proper, but are instead discussed
>> and made on WikiEN-l. Not all have the ability to post to the mailing
>> lists; this results in cutting out some people from important
>> dialogs. In actuality, there is close to nothing that needs to be
>> said in WikiEN-l that cannot be said in wikipedia-proper. I would
>> like the arbitration committee to hear my arguments for the shutting
>> down of WikiEN-l. You can call it User:Kingturtle v. WikiEN-l.
>
I disagree with this. There are plenty of ways to post to the mailing
list, from plenty of free web-based email services.

I also would much prefer discussions take place on a reasonable forum
designed for discussion like a mailing list, instead of an unreasonable
hack like using a Wiki to simulate a discussion forum, which has no
threading, no message management, no "read all new messages", etc.

In short, I'd strongly dislike any important discussions taking place on
Wikipedia, unless we move from a Wiki system to a real message-board
system. And by a real message-board system, I mean along the lines of
what Slashdot and Kuro5hin have, not along the lines of vBulletin, which
does not support fully-threaded discussions.

-Mark

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