On 2/20/06, John Lee johnleemk@gawab.com wrote:
Ben Emmel wrote:
I think that this is becoming the only viable solution. However, the userboxen supporters are also the loudest in shouting "Cabal, Cabal!!", and hearkening for the ruin of Jimbo. Just today did I see a userbox comparing him to something out of 1984. In short, they deny everything that Jimbo does for the good of Wikipedia.
These users greatly lose fact of basic Wikipedia principles: that we are here to build an encyclopedia, that you don't have a right to edit, and don't have an automatic right to "free speech". Truly, we have a sort of Wiki-"generation gap." I don't see an end to these issues any time soon.
Certainly not when we have former admins proposing the oustre of Jimbo ([[User:Karmafist/manifesto]]) and his replacement with an "elected executive" whose powers would be limited to managing the servers and basically all the crap Jimbo does now, minus any involvement with Wikipedia. The newbie disconnect is growing, and people who should know better are exacerbating it.
There seems to have been a rash of those in the past few days - [[User:The Ungovernable Force/manifesto]] is even more extreme - combined with a number of "Userbox Insurgency"-type userboxes. The issue seems to have become less a question of the userboxes themselves and more one of "sticking it to The Man" (in this case, Jimbo).
Kirill Lokshin