Err, not really - it's well known that we have a collective morality -
for instance, presenting information neutrally is part of our
collective morality.
Beyond that, it's as silly to characterise those arguing in favour of
some level of image inclusion by the opinions of their most extreme
members as those arguing against by their most extreme members. The
realistic, moderate position focused on encyclopaedic value probably
doesn't favour the exact arrangement of images used current, nor does
it favour their complete supression - for the most part, I agree with
User:Itaqallah's arguments, although I disagree with him about the
importance of non-Muslim representation and Muhammad's importance and
influence in the west.
But, in the community's collective will, it seems to believe very
strongly that *uncensored* is a moral we simply can't violate - I
prod'd people to keep the AfD on the "image-free fork" open longer to
allow more discussion, but ... in the end, it was pretty pointless -
perhaps the most overwhelming consensus I've seen anyware in this
place.
Cheers
WilyD
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:38 PM, The Mangoe <the.mangoe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Then surely there must be hundred of thousands of
objections to the
inaccurate (and overwrought) characterization of the "show" as
"censorship". It simply is no such thing.
And your use of the phrase "collective morality" is telling, in
exactly the wrong way. We're supposed to be neutral; we aren't
supposed to *have* a morality in that sense. Right now, anyone can see
that we aren't neutral about depictions of Muhammad.
I've said about what was worth saying in this. Of course, the "show"
version is a concession. But what it comes down to at the moment is
that making a moral statement about those illustrations is worth
fighting over the issue forever. My personal view is that the article
shouldn't be caught between the aniconic fundamentalists and the image
inclusion fundamentalists.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Wily D <wilydoppelganger(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Auto-hidden with "Show" and "Only
on a depictions" page have been
discussed to death 1000X over and rejected - while I agree with
Itaqallah and a few others that the current arrangement it at best
"suboptimal", it's simply that case that too many people that
censoring such an important article to present it from a non-neutral
perspective is simply to intolerable to our collective morality as
Wikipedians.
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