From: Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:15:25 -0800 (PST) To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Shrinking and expanding at the same time (was AC with a small quorum and IRC meetings)
--- Fred Bauder fredbaud@ctelco.net wrote:
I think we should simply empanel a 3 person jury from active users (including folks who are not administrators) and let them make a decision. If someone is dissatisfied they can appeal to the arbitrators and get a new trial.
I'm not dead fast opposed to such an idea, but I want to make very clear that there is nothing simple about it:
*Who decides who is empaneled?
Selected randomly but assigned a ranking number (so if thirty are called, and 6 accept within 12 hourse, only the 3 highest ranked would be empaneled).
*A great many people will not want to participate and we can not compel anyone to do so.
Must reply within 12 hours after selection or a new set of random users is selected and notified.
*The time it takes to empanel a jury will increase the total trial time.
Select more than actually needed. Experience will tell about how many need to be selected to come up with 3 who accept.
*Any baned user will automatically appeal and thus the regular ArbCom will still have to decide things (it could become a rubber stamping body though).
True, but if the work done by the jury is ok, it should go pretty fast. If the work is not good, true, it might take quite a bit of time.
The downside would be that the work we do on trying to devise alternatives to banning would suffer and the justice dispensed by the jury might be more rigid, i.e. they might ban rather than trying to come up with alternatives.
Fred
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