Jussi, the Metapedia site was deleted because it has recieved little to none
English-language coverage in reliable sources. Just because it's a wiki
doesn't make it notable enough for encyclopedic treatment. Personally I
think the site is covered under WP:FRINGE, and that as such a comprehensive
encyclopedic article would be lending importance to this quack venture that
simply doesn't exist.
On 7/26/07, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/26/07, Oskar Sigvardsson <oskarsigvardsson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The reason you can't find anything is that
the english section is
fairly small compared to the Swedish one, and those articles that do
exist are written in a sort of code. They don't come out and actually
say what they mean, they use a sort of neutrality shield to hide
behind. Let me quote you the Adolf Hitler article from the Swedish
side (and that side is closed from editing by the general public).
Loosely translated it reads like this:
"Adolf Hitler, born April 20, 1889, died April 30 1945. Know for
amongst other things as the leader of the NSDAP political party and
chancellor for the German Kingdom 1933-1945. Author of Mein Kamph, one
of the most sold books in the world"
And that's it. Nothing else. Every single article reads like this,
technically they are true and the tone is neutral, but they skew the
facts into oblivion. If you want to see a really distasteful article
for yourself, read http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Nordisk.nu
basically an ad for a site that is proud to be a racist social
Talk about free speech all you want, but don't for a second claim that
these people writing this thing are anything other than scum. It
doesn't make you look fair-minded or unprejudiced, it makes you look
like an idiot.
Your comment about myself notwithstanding ;o) ...
I think by and large what you say above is very fair comment. Like
I said above, I had only examined the english language side, and
that cursorily. I have since checked out the swedish side too, and
it does appear that it is pernicious, even if subtly so.
I do kind of regret that the english wikipedia no longer has an
article on the site. A neutral article based on the media visibility
the site has had in Sweden would have been quite useful in
putting the site in proper perspective. I read in some Swedish
news article that there had been pictures of Jews hanged on
some portal or other of the site. (not sure if that was vandalism
or run of the mill content for the site, but nevertheless)
In this case however as in most, criticism to be effective,
ought to be based on accurate facts, rather than stuff that
misses the point, as much of the criticism has been here on
the list; most specifically not including yours, as you have
the ability to read the Swedish sites content, and the media
For all that, however malevolent the site may be, it would
be sort of sad for this list to turn into a sort of metapedia-review.
I would much prefer wikipedia to have a neutral article on the
site that would bring forth the basic factors that make the
site malingnant. But since it was AFD:d that is not likely
to happen soon. And I would note that the Swedish language
wikipedia article on the site remains adcopy by the founders
of the site, not NPOVed at all, which needless to say, isn't
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
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