On Nov 27, 2007 2:54 PM, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/11/2007, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 27, 2007 5:16 PM, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/11/2007, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, gosh, lesse; is it possible, just possible, that any of the
people
who have commented might have said something in error? That they
might
believe (or have believed) something to be true, but were wrong?
GASP!
That is up to them to say. Not you to say on their behalf.
Nonsense; when someone says "either A is lying or B is lying" it is *incumbent* on others to say "or perhaps one or the other is mistaken."
When someone says that A and B's statements contradict each other. That is a matter for A and B to provide an explanation for. Further speculation is pointless.
Nonsense again; not reading an e-mail is not a "moral failing" in any meaningful sense of the term.
Yeah the Enron non executive directors tried that argument. Legally correct but as I said it depends on your moral system.
On the other hand, insisting that we must assume people are lying, rather than perhaps being in error or mistaken, could well be seen as a moral failure.
We don't need any more hypotheticals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_notice...
Oh, so you think the AN/I process is broken, and that's what RR was referring to?
Read the comment. Consider the timing. It suggests a process no? Since we are getting into a who knew what when game it also places a hard limit on how far people can claim plausible deniability.
-- geni
This is getting into a corner where AGF has failed. That seems a remarkably bad thing to do.
Geni, I respect you and the others who are concerned about this. But there is a big difference between asking about inconsistencies to try and get to the underlying truth, and assuming bad faith about people who have clearly established in the past that they were among the best and brightest and most dedicated on the project.
This project cannot continue to operate on an effective zero-tolerance for admin screwup basis. The people who are holding it all together (all of us) are human, make mistakes, and will eventually make whoppers.