I accept that some may see it as uncivil, but I for one do not.
The fact I do not find it uncivil does not make me a hypocrite.
I will be more careful using it in the future though.
I find it interesting how it isn't AfD which is under question, but me.
On 5/2/06, Pete Bartlett <pcb21(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Joe wrote:
Ironic how your reply is uncivil.
Yes I thought Charles wasn't quite up to his usual high standards,
but we''ll let him off this time.
I'm trying to simply ask for opinions as to
whether or not calling
something
cruft is uncivil. I'm sure the majority of
AfDers would agree with me,
though I'm sure many editors would disagree.
If its not clear that AfD is often an uncivil place (including using
-cruft etc),
then you've been there too long!
In an ideal wiki, editors taking part in AfD should be prepared for
dealing with more than their fair share (bewildered, upset) newbies
and should be extra specially careful not to bite them.
It is a great shame so many don't -
It costs us content, and more importantly, new contributors.
Pcb21
----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Anderson <computerjoe.mailinglist(a)googlemail.com>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May, 2006 4:21:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Cruft
Ironic how your reply is uncivil.
I'm trying to simply ask for opinions as to whether or not calling
something
cruft is uncivil. I'm sure the majority of AfDers would agree with me,
though I'm sure many editors would disagree.
Perhaps we could create a [civil] debate.
Also, if you think of my conduct as bad I ask you to comment at
[[Wikipedia
talk:Community Justice]], where the council has the power to remove me as
chair if, I'm found to have done misconduct!
Once again, thanks.
Joe
On 5/2/06, charles matthews <charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
"Joe Anderson" wrote
Basically, I campaign for civility around the
Wikipedia and by calling
something -cruft I'm apparently uncivil.
That you are.
Cruft is a term generally used on AfD - may it be
fan or listcruft. It
is
> used so much, I never even realised it could be looked upon as
uncivil!
Well, your campaign has a long way to go.
> IMO, calling me a hypocrite is a lot more uncivil (if not even a
breach
of
[[WP:NPA]]) than calling something listcruft.
It sounds timely, though. (Oh no, I'm about to type 'wake-up call', my
second-most-hated cliche after 'defining moment.)
I have no interest in making a big deal over this
:D .
Thank God for that. That would only be to call attention to yourself.
Charles
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