Sorry to disappoint you jayjg, I just recognize that bothering to respond to
your demands for proof would be an abject lesson in feeding the trolls. I'm
not specifically referring to you, but we both know that any diffs or quotes
I stick in here would be on Wikipedia Review in no time, and I have no
interest in trying to persuade people who do not participate in building the
encyclopedia that there are opportunities for improvement. They want to
trash people, let them develop their own evidence; I'm not a big fan of
lulz.
What time I have in my life for Wikipedia is much more effectively spent on
the encyclopedia itself, rather than having off-wiki debates that rapidly
spiral into irrelevancy. There have been some useful and interesting points
of view in this thread, and I'd be happy to continue discussing them
on-wiki with people. If someone wants to email me, please let me know on my
talk page, because my wiki-email comes to the same account as this list and
I go days without checking it.
Risker
On 11/28/07, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 2007 7:55 PM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote:
jayjg wrote:
>> On 11/27/07, jayjg wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 27, 2007 1:56 PM, Risker wrote:
>>>
>>>> The fact that ANY administrator believed that a pre-emptive block
of a
>>>> possible sockpuppet was
acceptable behaviour is the problem. It is
a
>>>> systemic issue and there is
absolutely no reason to believe that
Durova is
>>>>
>>>> the only administrator who thought that way; in fact, there seem to
be
>>>> administrators posting in this
thread who feel that such actions
are
>>>> perfectly acceptable.
>>>>
>>> Name them please.
>>>
>> On Nov 27, 2007 2:30 PM, Risker wrote:
>> Well, jayjg, let's put you in this situation. You have elected for
your own
[long hypothetical story snipped]
Risker, I asked you to name the admins who "believed that a
pre-emptive block of a possible sockpuppet was acceptable behaviour."
Name them please.
I don't see how naming people will do anything to solve the
problem.
Risker made a false claim. I called him on it. He won't name people
because no admins in this thread stated that a "pre-emptive block of a
possible sockpuppet was acceptable behaviour." End of story.
Personalizing only diverts attention toward the
named people when it
should be dealing with the systemic issues.
Claiming there are "systemic issues" only diverts attention from the
actual facts of the incident.
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