well jaygy, i haven't seen anything from you , to justify a ban at all.
If i recall you stated i was to be banned indefinately because
a) copy right violations.
You have still as yet to produce any evidence for this. If you can't that
means you deliberately lied in order to justify blocking me
b) attacks on talke pages.
Again you have failed to produce any evidence to justify a permanent block
based on this.
c) no useful edits.
this is highly subjective
d) 3RR games.
24 hour ban, at best
It seems that not only were you prepared to make false charges against me to
have me banned indefinately on my first ever ban. But you are now hassling
the other administrators who have questioned your indefinate ban.
If you cannot give any evidence , based on that which you banned me , you
should swallow your pride, accept the Wikipedia polices and guidelines and
brush aside this clear mistake in your actions.
Wikipedia is not a fiefdom.
Remember that all of this is logged on wikipedia, and it really doesn't come
across good at all.
From: jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Unblock request
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:01:57 -0400
On 5/21/06, Oskar Sigvardsson <oskarsigvardsson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/21/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com>
"Wheel war" is not an epithet, it is a
description of an activity.
When you undo an admins actions without first discussing it with him,
or getting broad consensus for doing so, you are wheel warring. That,
in fact, is what happened here. And since *everyone* is agreed that
Saladin1970 deserved *at least* a 1 week block, any discussion
regarding the appropriateness of an indefinite block could have taken
place during that week. There was no pressing need to immediately
undo the block and impose a different one. Wheel warring is bad.
He pretty much had consensus here on the list though. There were what,
three of four admins that thought that an indefinite block was way
over the top.
Were there? I didn't see that. I saw quite a few who thought an
indefinite block was quite reasonable.
And he didn't do anything totally
Yes he did, he reverted another admin's actions.
still a one week block, plenty of time for you to explain your reasons
to the rest of us.
No, plenty of time for him to try to get consensus for reducing the
block. I haven't seen that consensus yet.
Can we please stop screaming "Wheel
warrior!" to anyone who does
anything slightly resembling a wheel war, but is in actuality, pretty
No-one screamed, but calling it wheel-warring (which is what it is)
highlights how inappropriate it is. I want people to think 3 and 4
and 5 times before undoing another admin's action. And then think it
over another 5 times. And then get consensus.
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