geni wrote:
On 3/30/07, Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)wikia.com>
wrote:
geni wrote:
If the people dealing with copyvios can stay
within the rules and be
effective so can the BLP people. If they want extra powers they can
get them through the normal means.
This is exactly the attitude I am trying to
combat. It's this idea that
the people fighting for BLPs are somehow violating the rules while the
people inserting crap are not. This is total nonsense.
--Jimbo
Nyet. We have our deletion policies. The people dealing with BLP are
known to ignore them. While doing this as a one off may not be a
problem doing this on any scale is.
I'm sorry, with due respect to Geni, this is the type of myopic response
that drives me crazy. Let's worry about our policies, in house-rules,
and that the rights of Wikipedians are respected - because that's
obviously more important than doing the Right Thing, unharming real
people, or otherwise focusing on article quality? (That was sarcasm).
The problem with deletion process is that people tend to !vote "ah,
she's sort of notable so keep - the POV problems are a matter for
clean-up not deletion" and then walk away. This eventualism is useless
for BLP. Often we need to say - "unless someone cleans up this bio RIGHT
NOW it must die." If it is just a matter of removing a bit, then OTRS
folk can do that, but often the thing is intrinsically POV and the
sources are all biased.