On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:57:18 -0800, Will Beback
<will.beback.1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> We should care about people plotting to harm Wikipedia. I'm not sure if
> we should care that a WR admin hacked the password of its owner.
The palace intrigues within WR would be of interest in a Wikipedia
Review Review site, if one existed. Then one would have to create a
Wikipedia Review Review Review site to review it.
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I saw this log recently. Apparently [[User:Lumberjake]], a new editor, got confused with me (Lord knows why) and indef-blocked based on "evidence from IRC". His contribs were legitimate, and apparently he used a proxy that I once used, or something to that effect.
http://pastebin.ca/888624
There's the log. I was pretty shocked by this, not only because of the blatant trolling by the blocking admin, but because of a general realization I had.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia.
Thus, anything not pertinent to building an encyclopedia should be discouraged, and *certainly* not accepted as general M.O. for admins, right? Right?
Apparently not. It seems that, once again, the ridiculously high emotional investment in the project turns it from an occasional hobby into a violent drama-pit where sysops stroke their egos, users whine about anything they can, and the few users who actually try to get anything done are harassed and blocked by the majority who don't.
You really need to get your priorities straight.
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Verbum Sapienti springs to mind. Thats quite an essay. Your idea of an
inferno of the printed page is not going to happen. Laptops aren't as cuddly
in bed as book and you can't annote bullshit in your own hand in the margin
on the net (unless you can count Citation Needed!).
Flagged articles will presumably cut the crap, I have a few concerns about
it being viable and who will be trusted to review articles. But that is
surely for another thread.
Bias is unavoidable in any discipline with set rules. Bias on Wikipedia is
framed as consensus. The bias is certainly not overt and many articles have
a criticism section although framed within our consensus.
Long essays like this generally get overlooked. A word to the wise is better
than a thousand words. Just make a few points and you can always debate them
later if a mail gain interest.
Mike
(previous text removed because it was just too long for the list)
> Peter Ansell wrote:
> > Ray Saintonge wrote:
>
>> > I absolutely agree. Much of this is a matter of trying to find a middle
>> > way between the nutcases and paranoiacs. There is no evidence to show
>> > that the proportion of nutcases is any higher than it ever has been.
>> > They just have more tools (as do we), and the media relishes giving them
>> > more importance than they deserve. There's something dreadfully wrong
>> > when we cannot perform normal acts for the sole speculative reason that
>> > we might be face-to-face with a nutcase. Being overly protective of
>> > children is damaging too when it prevents them from gaining normal life
>> > experience.
>>
>
> In a case where it is letting a child go to the park on their own or
> letting them walk home from school on their own I would disagree that
> you are in anyway giving them life experience as a fair rational
> payoff for the risks. I see photos on the internet as having the same
> bad qualities without any of the supposed good to the child when they
> find out people did things to a photo of them when they were little,
> and their parents explicitly encouraged them to do it by licensing the
> photo a certain way.
>
> Peter
You seriously have no idea what you're saying. To say "their parents
explicitly encouraged" people to make negative alterations to their
children's images by "licensing the photo a certain way" is so far
beyond ignorant, I can't even believe you've said it. Stop playing the
victim in a situation where you are obviously incapable of holding a
civilized conversation. The whole thing is moot at this point, as
someone else, for whom I have respect for, made a completely different
argument about something completely unrelated to this stupidity and I've
subsequently removed all references to my kids and deleted the images.
However, Peter, you need to reevaluate this situation and figure out how
utterly shameful your remarks have been. You've now managed to offend
(specifically) two Wikipedians by calling us "irresponsible parents" for
uploading images of our kids, and now stating that in doing so we've
"explicitly encouraged" bad people to alter said images. And let's not
forget the post where you stated the United States has a different
culture from Australia in that it is easily annoyed, scandalous and full
of ultra-sensitive parents. Forgetting, of course, that Pedro is British
and was just has offended as me.
Lara
Some time ago I ran into a case where a small airline managed to
purchase a domain name with redirection service, pointed it to the
Wikipedia article about them, and then later angrily contacted the
foundation enraged that we were 'hacking' their website simply because
users were editing the article normally.
I didn't think that I'd run into another one as weird as that, but I
think this comes close:
http://bathrobecabal.org/
