WikiEN-l January 2004

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admin abuse
by UB 1 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Wikipedia:Administrators - As of September 2003, it is now possible for sysops to block usernames. It is important to note that sysops are not authorised to decide whether a particular case of vandalism warrants banning by username. The ability to ban by username has been made available for the purposes of enforcing a ban already approved by Jimbo. It may be used to block obvious reincarnations of hard-banned users. Special:Ipblocklist - 05:10, 26 Jan 2004, Angela blocked UnbannableOne (contribs) (Unacceptable user name. Please log in with something different. Unacceptable behaviour. Please quit it.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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Catholic Encyclopedia
by Sascha Noyes 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

A good example of why it is a bad idea to use the CE as a starting-point for a wikipedia entry: (found on [[Witchhunt]] and quickly removed) "The question of the reality of witchcraft is one upon which it is not easy to pass a confident judgment. In the face of Holy Scripture and the teaching of the Fathers and theologians the abstract possibility of a pact with the Devil and of a diabolical interference in human affairs can hardly be denied" ;-) Best, Sascha Noyes -- Please encrypt all email. Public key available from www.pantropy.net/snoyes.asc

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RE: [WikiEN-l] Let's keep "no personal attacks"
by Poor, Edmund W 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

> > http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2004/db040126.gif > > What are you trying to say, Ed? That if we eliminate > personal attacks, we won't be able to have presidential > election campaigns? LOL, what I'm trying to say is lighten up and have a laugh -- all this talk of trials and trolls was getting dark and dreary... Eddie

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Arbitration progress report #2
by Daniel Mayer 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

RickK wrote: >I request Sean Barrett's removal from the arbitration committee. Well if you can arbitrarily request the removal of Sean, I guess I can arbitrarily deny your request. Request denied. ;) -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)

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Should the content of articles be subject to arbitration?
by Ira Stoll 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

>Whether we deal with article-based disputes is a close issue. While I see >the need and advocate it, I recall great reluctance on the part of the >mailing list to allow arbitration of article content. I'm also posting this >to wikien-l for further comment by the mailing list. > >Fred I feel very strongly that article disputes be settled by arbitration, or some other time consuming process where the issue is well thought over and researched, rather than decided by poll. To be honest, I have a rather contentious issue that I would like to have arbitrated, assuming it is still a concern by the time the arbitrators are ready to start taking cases (and also assuming it is decided that they will handle article disputes :) JackLynch _________________________________________________________________ Find high-speed net deals comparison-shop your local providers here. https://broadband.msn.com

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RE: [WikiEN-l] Let's keep "no personal attacks"
by Poor, Edmund W 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Here is an illustration of what it would mean if we eliminated the "no personal attacks" rule. http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2004/db040126.gif Uncle Ed

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Web servers shuffled
by Daniel Ehrenberg 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

> From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com> > Subject: [WikiEN-l] Web servers shuffled > CC: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:30:47 -0800 > To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> > > en.wikipedia.org is now running on a much faster > machine. Between that > and the database tweaks we've done in the last > couple days, I hope this > should keep things more or less smooth for the next > few weeks until the > new server farm is set up in Florida (thanks to all > those who > donated!). > > -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com) Then why is it in its uneditible phase? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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Rudeness and Personal Attacks
by Sean Barrett 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

I have agreed to discuss my position on arbitration of simple rudeness with Sascha as well as anyone else who wants to have a conversation instead of a diatribe. Please see [[User talk:The Epopt/Arbitration]]. For those of you who prefer condemnation to discussion, my offer stands: convince a simple majority of the committee to ask me to step down and I will, or, of course, Jimbo can remove me. -- Sean Barrett | Five parts ammonium nitrate, sean(a)epoptic.com | two parts hydrazine.

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admin abuse
by Daniel Ehrenberg 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

> From: Sascha Noyes <sascha(a)pantropy.net> > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] admin abuse > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:19:30 -0500 > To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> > > On Monday 26 January 2004 12:41 am, UB 1 wrote: > > Wikipedia:Administrators - As of September 2003, > it is > > now possible for sysops to block usernames. It is > > important to note that sysops are not authorised > to > > decide whether a particular case of vandalism > warrants > > banning by username. The ability to ban by > username > > has been made available for the purposes of > enforcing > > a ban already approved by Jimbo. It may be used to > > block obvious reincarnations of hard-banned users. > > > > Special:Ipblocklist - 05:10, 26 Jan 2004, Angela > > blocked UnbannableOne (contribs) (Unacceptable > user > > name. Please log in with something different. > > Unacceptable behaviour. Please quit it.) > > I'm behind Angela on this one. > [[user:UnbannableOne]] is an obvious > "boundary-experiment" by an old troll taking > advantage of there not existing > any officially sanctioned policy enforcing body in > order to troll wikipedia, > while making themselves "unbannable" by adding > legitimate content. > > Best, > Sascha Noyes Although I disagree with this, it has been set by precedent when I was banned (temporarily) under the username "Non-Liberals are stupid" when I was seeing if I would get banned. (BTW, I don't believe that) LDan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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Robert's request for mediation
by Martin Harper 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Robert wrote: > I am requesting mediation. I'm delighted to accept mediation, as and when the mediation committee is in a position to handle the matter. Accordingly, I have left a very brief comment on "requests for mediation". If anyone is paying any attention to Robert's posts and wants me to respond to his accusations publically or privately, then I will be delighted to do so. Otherwise I shall not bother. -Martin "MyRedDice" Harper

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