Someone with IP addresses beginning with 208.188* is vandalizing several pages. How can we ban someone whose every attack is at a different IP address?
Zoe
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People are looking for things to become outraged about.
You hold open a door for someone, and they're like, "What, do you think I'm too old to open a door?" Or, "Well! That ladies first nonsense went *out* decades ago, you chauvinist p*****"
Calling a game 'soccer' or 'football' will get you punch in the mouth in certain European pubs.
People will fight to the death over the name of a river; or a "nation" like Quebec; or everyone's favorite: "Judea and Samaria" vs. "occupied Palestinian territories".
Now we will all have to take a few days off to argue about who an "American" is:
* North America = Canada, US, Mexico, Central America + Caribbean Islands
* South America = Columbia and all those other countries south of the Panama Canal
BUT:
* norteamericano = US + Canada
* Latin America = Mexico and all countries south of it
I no longer have time for such games; I have more important crops to plant. If anyone wants to use Wikipedia to cultivate their outrage, go ahead and do it but don't expect me to get excited about it.
Uncle Ed, aka Ed Poor
elian wrote:
>Hello,
>
>there is usually so much fuzz about banning
>certain users, weeks of tedious discussions,
>scrupulous arguments if someone like Lir should
>be really banned or if he/she could learn to
>work cooperatively in the end...
>
>....
>
>First question: I seem to have missed this
>debate (the user has written under IPs starting
>with 142.177.) Could someone direct me to some
>links in the archive?
This person has been determined to be 24 beyond a
reasonable doubt. 24 was banned for making a threat to
Larry and 24 under the new IP made a death threat to
me and the rest of the "cabal."
>....
>Third question: I can't reproduce the first
>reason for the ban:
>* 08:12 Jan 13, 2003, Maveric149 blocked
>142.177.97.215 (contribs) (racial insult at
>Talk:Space Shuttle Columbia: "(On [[January 12]],
>[[1986]] Columbia took-off with the first
>[[Hispanic-American]] astronaut, Dr. [[Franklin
>R. Chang-Diaz]].) " Well, that explains where the
>Challenger's O-ring went... <-- ;-D")
>
>In the history of [[Talk:Space Shuttle Columbia]]
>I can find no edits by this IP. Could someone
>explain the story of this ban?
>
There is no history for it because I deleted the talk
page. If you like I can restore the talk page. The
ban, BTW, was for the stated major violation of
Wikipetiquette and was only supposed to be temporary
but this user later left a death threat on my meta
talk page so the ban was never lifted. The problem is
that this user keeps getting new IPs. Thus another
Wikipedian got sick and tired of dealing with
142.177's edits when 142.177 shouldn't be editing at
all.
>And my fourth and last question: Why the hell do
>you ban users who write articles like this:
>http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asharites ???
Violations of Wikipetiquette and making death threats.
DW also created a lot of valid content - but was
banned for violating Wikipetiquette.
>...
>Okay, okay...one prefers to let other, more
>knowledgeable people write about Islam.
>These people do also behave very civilly.
Hardly.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
WikiKarma:
My usual updates at [[February 20]]
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Hello,
there is usually so much fuzz about banning certain users, weeks of
tedious discussions, scrupulous arguments if someone like Lir should be
really banned or if he/she could learn to work cooperatively in the
end...
I just followed the little edit war in [[Iraq crisis 2003]] and on the
talk page I found the following:
| This article was removed because the user who sumbitted it was banned,
| for reasons which are on the mailing list. Given the reason for the ban,
| it is surprising that this user is taking an anti-war position here!
|
| The conclusion on the mailing list was that they should be banned, and
| therfore they don't get to play here. Period.
First question: I seem to have missed this debate (the user has written
under IPs starting with 142.177.) Could someone direct me to some links in
the archive?
Second question: Since when is the fact that some user was banned a valid
reason (without giving any other reasons) for deleting entire articles?
Third question: I can't reproduce the first reason for the ban:
* 08:12 Jan 13, 2003, Maveric149 blocked 142.177.97.215 (contribs) (racial
insult at Talk:Space Shuttle Columbia: "(On [[January 12]], [[1986]]
Columbia took-off with the first [[Hispanic-American]] astronaut,
Dr. [[Franklin R. Chang-Diaz]].) " Well, that explains where the
Challenger's O-ring went... <-- ;-D")
In the history of [[Talk:Space Shuttle Columbia]] I can find no edits by
this IP. Could someone explain the story of this ban?
And my fourth and last question: Why the hell do you ban users who write
articles like this: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asharites ???
or add substantial content like this one:
http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Ijtihad&diff=675212&oldid=650587
or this (not banned, but apparently the same user):
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_philosophy
Okay, okay...one prefers to let other, more knowledgeable people write
about Islam. These people do also behave very civilly.
good bye,
elian
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I think we should un-ban whoever this is, that Elian's
talking about.
Elian is a responsible person, and he would never
knowingly sponsor a vandal. And even if by some rare
chance Elian is wrong about this person, it wouldn't
hurt because they could be re-banned if needed.
I say we should listen to Elian in this case and do as
he suggests.
I trust Elian to do the Right Thing.
Uncle Ed, aka Ed Poor
it looks like we will have a vote to decide what to
call notable u.s. citizens. the top two choices are
"people from the united states" or "americans"
[[Talk:List of United States people]]
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I like Axelboldt's redirection and unprotection ideas.
Uncle Ed, aka Ed Poor
-----Original Message-----
From: Axel Boldt [mailto:axelboldt@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:48 PM
To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] RE: Protected pages
[[GNU_FDL]] can be unprotected and should redirect to [[GNU Free
Documentation Licence]], not to [[Wikipedia:Copyrights]]. The copyright
link at the bottom of every page should go to [[Wikipedia:Copyrights]]
and not to [[GNU_FDL]].
Axel
Here are the 24 protected pages, as of 2/25/03: the main
page, 3 articles, 2 or 3 user pages and an assortment of
admin pages.
[[Main_Page]]
[[GNU_FDL]]
[[List_of_American_people]]
[[Three_People's_Principles]]
[[User:Lir]]
[[User talk:Lir]]
[[User:Maveric149]]
[[Wikipedia:2003_Press_Release]]
[[Wikipedia:Administrators]]
[[Wikipedia:Blocked_IPs]]
[[Wikipedia:Copyrights]]
[[Wikipedia:Database_queries]]
[[Wikipedia:Deletion_log]]
[[Wikipedia:Deletion_log_archive/October_2002]
[[Wikipedia:IP_probation_watchlist]]
[[Wikipedia:Most_wanted_articles]]
[[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions]]
[[Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view]]
[[Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines]]
[[Wikipedia:Policy_on_permanent_deletion_of_pages]]
[[Wikipedia:Recentchanges]]
[[Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License]]
[[Wikipedia:Upload_log]]
[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_press_release_1]]
Uncle Ed, aka Ed Poor
I know this has been discussed again and again, but can we *please*
just delete articles that consist of a name, date of birth, place
of employment, bland description of how much they loved their kids,
and the fact that they happened to die on September 11th?
Or can I add an article on myself, and on my mother, and my
girlfriend, and the people I work with, and my dog? Perhaps
we should just import electoral registers into the wikipedia.
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