It seems to me that the debate on scientism and the questions about RK's
past behavior and whether or not it's obvious who's a sysop may be
obscuring the fact that Mr-Natural-Health's *behavior* is a problem --
whether or not people agree or disagree with his views.
I understand the ongoing concerns about not biting the newbies, but I find
it disturbing that MNH has been acting this way for days, people have tried
repeatedly to reason with him, and that there still seems to ba a lot of
skepticism and questions about whether this is all the fault of other editors.
The fact that MNH wrote the following on RK's talk page makes me think that
this is not a case of a clueless newbie:
Ha, ... Hah, Ha! -- Mr-Natural-Health, The German Nazi from New York
I am proud of my German heritage, how about you? Do you respect your
elder's?
I will repeat. Everyone wanted you banned many moons
ago.--Mr-Natural-Health
Thanks, Brian
At Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:56:03 -0800 (PST), Robert wrote:
>From: Robert <rkscience100(a)yahoo.com>
>Subject: [WikiEN-l] Mr-Natural-Health says he is a Nazi. What can we
> make of this?
>To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org
>Message-ID: <20031207235603.36524.qmail(a)web20303.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Mr-Natural-Health made the statement that he is a Nazi; he
>said this to me on my User page because I am am Jewish.
>This is very hateful. He is even sending private hate mail
>to people he disagrees with. For instance:
>
>====
>
> To: "RK"
> Subject: RK, the Arse!
> From: "Mr-Natural-Health" <johnhgohde(a)yahoo.com>
> To: "RK"
> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:24:06 +0000 (UTC)
>
> You are an Arse! Just thought that you might want to
>know. :)
>
>====
>
>It is not just me; in a very short time many in the
>Wikipedia community have come to the conclusion that
>Mr-Natural-Health is a threat. Please see for yourself by
>reading the comments on his User page; every time someone
>tries to discuss things with him, he belittles and insults
>them, and then attacks them.
>
>Mr-Natural-health has repeatedly stated that he plans on
>coming back to Wikipedia with other ISP under false names,
>and that he will not let anyone alter his edits. This is
>explicit admission of vandalism.
>
>In any case, the edits he makes include gross falsehoods,
>distortions, fabrications, and paranoia. I am distubred by
>the way that Ec and a few others are defending this
>disturbed individual and his "work". I had planned to stay
>off Wiki-En for good, but in this case seeing this man
>defended, instead of banned, was too much.
>
>A few contributors to Wiki-En forum seem devoid of common
>sense; it would be a shame if their lack of sense allowed
>Wikipedia to be damaged by allowing wackos free reign.
>
>Robert (RK)