Hoi, I do not know if you were present at the recent chat, I could not be there but I could read the log ... You may have been at the chat, you may have read the log [1].
I did read the log and it did not motivate me at all. If anything it made me sad. From what I read, people were concerned about the things they are currently working on and it was all about ensuring that nothing would be lost nothing would change really.
I did not get any feeling for the reasons why the Wikidatification of media files is worthwhile. I feel really bad about this because the purpose of it all is so important.
It is all about PEOPLE.
People that will find images with "een hond, een kat, een paard" or "ein Hund, eine Katze, ein Pferd" ....
When these people are eight years old and "only" 50% of pictures with such a subject like dog cat or horse can be found in this way, we have accomplished a lot. It is a 100% improvement.
All the current categories and templates have their place and the information that is in that data will be converted straight away or eventually. It does not matter really, What matters is that we focus on the application of what we do. Who benefits, how do we transition to where we want to be. How do we make sure that we gain the most of all the work we do, have done and will do.
It starts with obvious benefits.. Enabling people to use the media files is what the wikidatification of media files is about. That may already be too abstract; when it is, it is about finding doggies, kitties and horsies..
When the Wikidatification is about such tangible objectives, who will object ? With objectives like that, the devil is still in the detail but we will see the forest from the trees. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/wikimedia-office.201...
Hoi, Magnus created a new tool [1] that shows that in a limited way we can already search for media files in Commons using Wikidata data.
This is where we are at this point in time. From this example of what we can already do, we can build something that is truly useful and usable. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/wd_commons.php?
On 4 September 2014 11:57, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, I do not know if you were present at the recent chat, I could not be there but I could read the log ... You may have been at the chat, you may have read the log [1].
I did read the log and it did not motivate me at all. If anything it made me sad. From what I read, people were concerned about the things they are currently working on and it was all about ensuring that nothing would be lost nothing would change really.
I did not get any feeling for the reasons why the Wikidatification of media files is worthwhile. I feel really bad about this because the purpose of it all is so important.
It is all about PEOPLE.
People that will find images with "een hond, een kat, een paard" or "ein Hund, eine Katze, ein Pferd" ....
When these people are eight years old and "only" 50% of pictures with such a subject like dog cat or horse can be found in this way, we have accomplished a lot. It is a 100% improvement.
All the current categories and templates have their place and the information that is in that data will be converted straight away or eventually. It does not matter really, What matters is that we focus on the application of what we do. Who benefits, how do we transition to where we want to be. How do we make sure that we gain the most of all the work we do, have done and will do.
It starts with obvious benefits.. Enabling people to use the media files is what the wikidatification of media files is about. That may already be too abstract; when it is, it is about finding doggies, kitties and horsies..
When the Wikidatification is about such tangible objectives, who will object ? With objectives like that, the devil is still in the detail but we will see the forest from the trees. Thanks, GerardM
[1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/wikimedia-office.201...