[Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links - Wikidata

Amir E. Aharoni

29 Jan 29 Jan

3:42 a.m.

This is probably not-entirely-useful, because it's just a complaint and not a fix, so apologies for that, but if I may... My dream solution for some of those issues with integration of Wikipedia and Wikidata is letting people edit Wikidata without leaving Wikipedia (or Wikivoyage, or whatever). Adding interlanguage links to an article that doesn't have any links currently already works well for over a year: The editor sees a dialog box that does everything needed without leaving Wikipedia, in the user's own language and without ever leaving the page. This is awesome, and it should work the same way for adding links to a page that already has some. And it should be like that for editing statements, too. In the same dream setup that I am thinking of, statements are edited right in the infobox, and the values are stored in wikidata.org. Clever local gadgets and templates on the Russian Wikipedia are frequently brought up when discussing this topic. I wish I could see something like this in all languages as part of the Wikibase/Wikidata product and not as a local hack, as great as it is. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-01-28 16:40 GMT-08:00 Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com>om>:

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Hi all, Again, for already so many times, many users have complained on nl-wiki that it is for them impossible now to add interwikilinks on Wikidata. They are sick of all the changes all the time, especially if they experience the new design as impossible to use, as it now is. They are lost with the current design and can't add new interwikilinks. That this pops-up so many times is a serious problem that needs a solution. Wikidat is not meant for techno users only, but that is how many regular users experience Wikidata. If regular users find themselves impossible to add/update pages, the software needs a big change to re-enable them to work with Wikidata again. Ow, I am just the messenger... [1] Romaine [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2515525 _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

12:05 p.m.

Amir E. Aharoni, 29/01/2015 02:42:

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My dream solution for some of those issues with integration of Wikipedia and Wikidata is letting people edit Wikidata without leaving Wikipedia (or Wikivoyage, or whatever).

This is not quite a dream, for sitelinks. We already have an in-place dialog for adding sitelinks: mysteriously, when there is already a sitelink, the dialog is replaced by a frustrating link to the Wikidata item, which requires an entire page load and countless clicks. This should be very easy to change. The dialog could then contain a link to the Wikidata item for the case when one wants to edit or remove links, until such a feature is added to the dialog itself. Nemo

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Lydia Pintscher

12:31 p.m.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Amir E. Aharoni, 29/01/2015 02:42:

My dream solution for some of those issues with integration of Wikipedia and Wikidata is letting people edit Wikidata without leaving Wikipedia (or Wikivoyage, or whatever).

This is not quite a dream, for sitelinks. We already have an in-place dialog for adding sitelinks: mysteriously, when there is already a sitelink, the dialog is replaced by a frustrating link to the Wikidata item, which requires an entire page load and countless clicks.

The issue with doing this when there are several sitelinks is that people will unknowingly merge items this way that should not be merged. That'd be a huge pita. We'll need to put some good thinking into this still. I have no good solution right now.

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This should be very easy to change. The dialog could then contain a link to the Wikidata item for the case when one wants to edit or remove links, until such a feature is added to the dialog itself.

Showing the dialog and requiring people to click would probably annoy people for having to click one additional time? Especially if their intention is clear. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

12:49 p.m.

Daniel Kinzler, 29/01/2015 11:24:

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As far as I recall, there is some very silly technical reason that

this is not

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easy to change at all. We tried to do this right when we introduced

the other

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widget, of course. I don't recall what exactly the problem was though, and it might have

been fixed

...

since. Worth another look...

I see. I said "should" (ought to?). :P Is there a phabricator ticket for this? Lydia Pintscher, 29/01/2015 11:31:

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The issue with doing this when there are several sitelinks is that people will unknowingly merge items this way that should not be merged. That'd be a huge pita. We'll need to put some good thinking into this still. I have no good solution right now.

This is a non-issue IMHO, as soon as my suggestion at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85776 / https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/transactions/detail/PHID-XACT-TASK-zi2igy… is implemented.

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>This should be very easy to change. The dialog could then contain a link to >the Wikidata item for the case when one wants to edit or remove links, until >such a feature is added to the dialog itself.

Showing the dialog and requiring people to click would probably annoy people for having to click one additional time? Especially if their intention is clear.

There is already a generic Wikidata link in the sidebar which users can click; having two of them is a waste. Also, the drawback is much lower than the gain: if I'm forced to visit an entry in Wikidata to edit a sitelink, I have to spend X seconds to load the entry, then find the "add" button etc, spend additional N links; if I really want to go to the Wikidata entry, having to click in a dialog is just one click more and a fraction of second spent. If you really think the "add one link" case is minoritary for those who click the edit links button, I trust you, but we should have click tracking data to back this. Personally, I'd bet 85 % of users clicking the button just wants to add one link and expects to see the dialog they usually see to add links (when there are none). Nemo

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Fabian Tompsett

1:26 p.m.

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I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given

Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own mmm, an interesting perspective, but do we have any data? As we are in to speculation here, I would hazard a guess that the smaller the Wikipedia the more likely it is that page creators are aware that there are wikipedias in other languages. So for example on Welsh Wicipedia <https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan> I would guess something close to 100% of page creators are aware of English Wikipedia. <https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan> all the best Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990 *Mobile: *07840 455 746 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 29 January 2015 at 11:00, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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+1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com

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Daniel Kinzler, 29/01/2015 11:24:

As far as I recall, there is some very silly technical reason that this

is not

easy to change at all. We tried to do this right when we introduced the

other

widget, of course. I don't recall what exactly the problem was though, and it might have

been fixed

since. Worth another look...

I see. I said "should" (ought to?). :P Is there a phabricator ticket for this? Lydia Pintscher, 29/01/2015 11:31:

The issue with doing this when there are several sitelinks is that people will unknowingly merge items this way that should not be merged. That'd be a huge pita. We'll need to put some good thinking into this still. I have no good solution right now.

This is a non-issue IMHO, as soon as my suggestion at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85776 / https://phabricator.wikimedia. org/transactions/detail/PHID-XACT-TASK-zi2igyjlfqasknq/ is implemented.

This should be very easy to change. The dialog could then contain a link to >the Wikidata item for the case when one wants to edit or remove links, until >such a feature is added to the dialog itself.

Showing the dialog and requiring people to click would probably annoy people for having to click one additional time? Especially if their intention is clear.

There is already a generic Wikidata link in the sidebar which users can click; having two of them is a waste. Also, the drawback is much lower than the gain: if I'm forced to visit an entry in Wikidata to edit a sitelink, I have to spend X seconds to load the entry, then find the "add" button etc, spend additional N links; if I really want to go to the Wikidata entry, having to click in a dialog is just one click more and a fraction of second spent. If you really think the "add one link" case is minoritary for those who click the edit links button, I trust you, but we should have click tracking data to back this. Personally, I'd bet 85 % of users clicking the button just wants to add one link and expects to see the dialog they usually see to add links (when there are none). Nemo _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Gerard Meijssen

3:17 p.m.

Hoi, Great to hear about the collaboration between Wikipedias :) I do not use those buttons imho it is not worth it It is quicker doing it all from Wikidata for me. Thanks, GerardM On 29 January 2015 at 12:49, Robin Owain <robin.owain(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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Exactly, Fabian. We constantly adapt articles from Eng as well as 'local' wiki languages. For example the Gaudi article on cywiki is around 65% en; 30% ca and 5% external websites. Great work happening with the Content Translation Tool; just wish cy could have piloted it! The rich weave of languages on the loom of Wikipedia gives the tapestry its beauty and strength. I also agree that the wikidata button on WP needs simplifying! Robin On 29 January 2015 at 11:26, Fabian Tompsett < fabian.tompsett(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given

Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own mmm, an interesting perspective, but do we have any data? As we are in to speculation here, I would hazard a guess that the smaller the Wikipedia the more likely it is that page creators are aware that there are wikipedias in other languages. So for example on Welsh Wicipedia <https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan> I would guess something close to 100% of page creators are aware of English Wikipedia. <https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan> all the best Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990 *Mobile: *07840 455 746 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 29 January 2015 at 11:00, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:

+1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) < nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Daniel Kinzler, 29/01/2015 11:24: > As far as I recall, there is some very silly technical reason that this is not > easy to change at all. We tried to do this right when we introduced the other > widget, of course. > > I don't recall what exactly the problem was though, and it might have been fixed > since. Worth another look... I see. I said "should" (ought to?). :P Is there a phabricator ticket for this? Lydia Pintscher, 29/01/2015 11:31: > The issue with doing this when there are several sitelinks is that > people will unknowingly merge items this way that should not be > merged. That'd be a huge pita. We'll need to put some good thinking > into this still. I have no good solution right now. > This is a non-issue IMHO, as soon as my suggestion at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85776 / https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/transactions/detail/PHID- XACT-TASK-zi2igyjlfqasknq/ is implemented. > >This should be very easy to change. The dialog could then contain a >> link to >> >the Wikidata item for the case when one wants to edit or remove >> links, until >> >such a feature is added to the dialog itself. >> > Showing the dialog and requiring people to click would probably annoy > people for having to click one additional time? Especially if their > intention is clear. > There is already a generic Wikidata link in the sidebar which users can click; having two of them is a waste. Also, the drawback is much lower than the gain: if I'm forced to visit an entry in Wikidata to edit a sitelink, I have to spend X seconds to load the entry, then find the "add" button etc, spend additional N links; if I really want to go to the Wikidata entry, having to click in a dialog is just one click more and a fraction of second spent. If you really think the "add one link" case is minoritary for those who click the edit links button, I trust you, but we should have click tracking data to back this. Personally, I'd bet 85 % of users clicking the button just wants to add one link and expects to see the dialog they usually see to add links (when there are none). Nemo _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Fabian Tompsett

5:03 p.m.

Hi Jane, Thanks for that. My guesses maybe wrong, but that does not mean my logic is flawed. My point was precisely that different language Wikipedias will have their own characteristics, and that it is precisely because, as we agree, Welsh wikimedians also read English wikipedia that I made my point. I found the information you gave about the survey you did in Netherlands very interesting, but as this discussion focuses more on page creators, I wonder how well the data reflects such a more engaged group of people. Also I feel that the example of Dutch wikipedia is of course very important, bearing in mind it is the third largest wikipedia, even bigger than German wikipedia. However my concern is that we should also be considering a variety of circumstances: - Chinese <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language> (15th), - Norwegian (Bokmål) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_%28Bokm%C3%A5l%29_language> (19th) and Norwegian (Nynorsk) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_%28Nynorsk%29_language> (48th) - Swahili <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_language> (93rd) an official language in three different countries If we are thinking in terms of more generic usability and the unfolding role of Wikidata in relationship to the variety of languages which will increasingly come to use it, then I feel we should be sketching out a broader picture. I hope that makes my thinking clearer. all the best Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990 *Mobile: *07840 455 746 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 29 January 2015 at 14:23, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi Fabian, I think your logic is flawed, as I believe most of the Welsh contributors probably also read the English Wikipedia. This will be true for many languages that are closely related, such as Dutch and Afrikaans, but there is much less "cross reading" between English and languages that are located far from English-speaking countries. Hungarian and other languages will show less "cross reading". In the Netherlands, we held a user survey in 2013 that was very enlightening as it showed us some interesting data that we didn't know. One of the most surprising was that most people in the Netherlands were unaware that Wikipedia is written by volunteers (we are holding a PR campaign this year that just addresses this specific point). The other very interesting and surprising thing we learned was that most people were unaware that Wikipedia was an American invention. They assumed it was Dutch. I personally infer from this the following two things: 1) Dutch people are unaware that Wikipedia exists in other languages, especially since Google's knowledge graph is able to give them enough meta data in web searches such that they need to click on a Wikipedia page less and less for basic information on any specific subject. 2) Dutch people are unaware that the servers of the Dutch Wikipedia are hosted in the U.S. and are therefore abiding by the rules in the U.S. legislative territory. We know from earlier tests with users that "Donate buttons" and other links appearing on the left seem to be invisible to most users. It is based on all of these things that I made that comment. The click-through data on the interwikis would be very interesting to see. Best, Jane On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Fabian Tompsett < fabian.tompsett(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given

Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own mmm, an interesting perspective, but do we have any data? As we are in to speculation here, I would hazard a guess that the smaller the Wikipedia the more likely it is that page creators are aware that there are wikipedias in other languages. So for example on Welsh Wicipedia <https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan> I would guess something close to 100% of page creators are aware of English Wikipedia. <https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan> all the best Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990 *Mobile: *07840 455 746 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 29 January 2015 at 11:00, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:

+1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) < nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Daniel Kinzler, 29/01/2015 11:24: > As far as I recall, there is some very silly technical reason that this is not > easy to change at all. We tried to do this right when we introduced the other > widget, of course. > > I don't recall what exactly the problem was though, and it might have been fixed > since. Worth another look... I see. I said "should" (ought to?). :P Is there a phabricator ticket for this? Lydia Pintscher, 29/01/2015 11:31: > The issue with doing this when there are several sitelinks is that > people will unknowingly merge items this way that should not be > merged. That'd be a huge pita. We'll need to put some good thinking > into this still. I have no good solution right now. > This is a non-issue IMHO, as soon as my suggestion at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85776 / https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/transactions/detail/PHID- XACT-TASK-zi2igyjlfqasknq/ is implemented. > >This should be very easy to change. The dialog could then contain a >> link to >> >the Wikidata item for the case when one wants to edit or remove >> links, until >> >such a feature is added to the dialog itself. >> > Showing the dialog and requiring people to click would probably annoy > people for having to click one additional time? Especially if their > intention is clear. > There is already a generic Wikidata link in the sidebar which users can click; having two of them is a waste. Also, the drawback is much lower than the gain: if I'm forced to visit an entry in Wikidata to edit a sitelink, I have to spend X seconds to load the entry, then find the "add" button etc, spend additional N links; if I really want to go to the Wikidata entry, having to click in a dialog is just one click more and a fraction of second spent. If you really think the "add one link" case is minoritary for those who click the edit links button, I trust you, but we should have click tracking data to back this. Personally, I'd bet 85 % of users clicking the button just wants to add one link and expects to see the dialog they usually see to add links (when there are none). Nemo _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Andre Engels

1 Feb 1 Feb

11:53 a.m.

I'll have to agree with Romaine here. I do consider myself a more advanced Wikidata user, but here I find myself at a loss. I want to move an interwiki link from one interwiki data item to the other. Currently my workflow for this seems to be this: * I open the edit field on Wikidata item 1 * I delete the item there * I hit save * I open the edit field on Wikidata item 2 * I specify the language there * I specify the page name there * I am unable to hit save * I get frustrated * I open the Wikipedia page * I click on the 'add interwiki' link * I fill in a language * I fill in a page * I hit ok Surely it should be possible to create a workflow that does NOT include going outside Wikidata? André Engels On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:40 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi all, Again, for already so many times, many users have complained on nl-wiki that it is for them impossible now to add interwikilinks on Wikidata. They are sick of all the changes all the time, especially if they experience the new design as impossible to use, as it now is. They are lost with the current design and can't add new interwikilinks. That this pops-up so many times is a serious problem that needs a solution. Wikidat is not meant for techno users only, but that is how many regular users experience Wikidata. If regular users find themselves impossible to add/update pages, the software needs a big change to re-enable them to work with Wikidata again. Ow, I am just the messenger... [1] Romaine [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2515525 _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Lydia Pintscher

2 Feb 2 Feb

12:03 a.m.

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

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Am 01.02.2015 um 10:53 schrieb Andre Engels:

I'll have to agree with Romaine here. I do consider myself a more advanced Wikidata user, but here I find myself at a loss. I want to move an interwiki link from one interwiki data item to the other. Currently my workflow for this seems to be this: * I open the edit field on Wikidata item 1 * I delete the item there * I hit save * I open the edit field on Wikidata item 2 * I specify the language there * I specify the page name there * I am unable to hit save

This should work. Maybe give the DB a minute to catch up. If this fails consistently, it's a major bug. A streamlined workflow for moving a sitelink to another item would be nice though. Could be built as a gadget, but we should look into integrating it fully.

That gadget exists already ;-) It's called move. The ticket for integration in Wikibase is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74019 Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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