Hi all,
I just discovered that there seems to be a limit on the length of property values... some properties for compounds, however, are longer, the InChI being a good example... 400 chars is not enough for some compounds in Wikipedia, like teixobactin (Q18720369)....
This length is not defined by the property definition itself (InChI (P234)), so I am wondering if this max length is system wide, or if there are options to vary it? A max length of 1024 is better, though still would not allow InChIs values for all compounds...
Looking forward to hearing from you, and a happy new year,
Egon
Hi Egon,
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Egon Willighagen egon.willighagen@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I just discovered that there seems to be a limit on the length of property values... some properties for compounds, however, are longer, the InChI being a good example... 400 chars is not enough for some compounds in Wikipedia, like teixobactin (Q18720369)....
This length is not defined by the property definition itself (InChI (P234)), so I am wondering if this max length is system wide, or if there are options to vary it? A max length of 1024 is better, though still would not allow InChIs values for all compounds...
Looking forward to hearing from you, and a happy new year,
There is currently a character limit in place for everything (labels, description, values, etc). The reason is that we need to make sure people don't start entering long text that in the end again isn't machine-readable. The property you mention is currently scheduled to be converted to the new identifier datatype. What we could consider is increasing the length for values allowed in this particular datatype.
Cheers Lydia
Same problem with bignums.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hi Egon,
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Egon Willighagen egon.willighagen@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I just discovered that there seems to be a limit on the length of property values... some properties for compounds, however, are longer, the InChI being a good example... 400 chars is not enough for some compounds in Wikipedia, like teixobactin (Q18720369)....
This length is not defined by the property definition itself (InChI (P234)), so I am wondering if this max length is system wide, or if there are options to vary it? A max length of 1024 is better, though still would not allow InChIs values for all compounds...
Looking forward to hearing from you, and a happy new year,
There is currently a character limit in place for everything (labels, description, values, etc). The reason is that we need to make sure people don't start entering long text that in the end again isn't machine-readable. The property you mention is currently scheduled to be converted to the new identifier datatype. What we could consider is increasing the length for values allowed in this particular datatype.
Cheers Lydia
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
There is currently a character limit in place for everything (labels, description, values, etc). The reason is that we need to make sure people don't start entering long text that in the end again isn't machine-readable. The property you mention is currently scheduled to be converted to the new identifier datatype. What we could consider is increasing the length for values allowed in this particular datatype.
For ChEMBL I have used 1024 in the past for InChIs. That should do for now.
Egon
There is a similar problem with labels and perhaps also P1476 (title), though their maximum lengths differ: Some scholarly articles (particularly in chemistry) simply have long titles, e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21203739 .
d.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi Egon,
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Egon Willighagen egon.willighagen@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I just discovered that there seems to be a limit on the length of property values... some properties for compounds, however, are longer, the InChI being a good example... 400 chars is not enough for some compounds in Wikipedia, like teixobactin (Q18720369)....
This length is not defined by the property definition itself (InChI (P234)), so I am wondering if this max length is system wide, or if there are options to vary it? A max length of 1024 is better, though still would not allow InChIs values for all compounds...
Looking forward to hearing from you, and a happy new year,
There is currently a character limit in place for everything (labels, description, values, etc). The reason is that we need to make sure people don't start entering long text that in the end again isn't machine-readable. The property you mention is currently scheduled to be converted to the new identifier datatype. What we could consider is increasing the length for values allowed in this particular datatype.
Cheers Lydia
-- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata
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Are other properties eligble for a longer limit as well? I am asking because we would like to have a definition property to capture official definitions on concepts from various resources. (e.g. the definiton of diseases from the disease ontology, or the summaries of gene descriptions. Because of the 400 character limit, I haven't proposed such a property yet, but if longer limits are considered, I would be more then happy to propose that property.
Andra
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hi Egon,
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Egon Willighagen egon.willighagen@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I just discovered that there seems to be a limit on the length of property values... some properties for compounds, however, are longer, the InChI being a good example... 400 chars is not enough for some compounds in Wikipedia, like teixobactin (Q18720369)....
This length is not defined by the property definition itself (InChI (P234)), so I am wondering if this max length is system wide, or if there are options to vary it? A max length of 1024 is better, though still would not allow InChIs values for all compounds...
Looking forward to hearing from you, and a happy new year,
There is currently a character limit in place for everything (labels, description, values, etc). The reason is that we need to make sure people don't start entering long text that in the end again isn't machine-readable. The property you mention is currently scheduled to be converted to the new identifier datatype. What we could consider is increasing the length for values allowed in this particular datatype.
Cheers Lydia
-- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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