Though I am not against this, I would like to keep the removal of
categories, superseded by other thongs provided by Wikidata, still as an
hypothesis.
Wikidata is a major step in our history, and it is likely to have so many
effects that we can only discover with time. Still, a large part of our
communities still has to adapt to this, and my fear is that, if someone of
us starts talking about how categories are useless right now because of
Wikidata, we will face a huge flame about this.
Please do not read my words as a {{strong oppose}} to the possibility to
move to a "better" system, rather as an advice on being very thoughtful
about this.
Luca "Sannita" Martinelli
The relationship between Wikipedia categories and
Wikidata pops up here
and there in discussions -- a recent one was
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/06#Proposa…
.
I think Wikidata
properties<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Property>a…
queries <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Query> will
likely go a long way toward obsolescing Wikipedia categories. Categories
are essentially queries on a set of pre-defined properties. The manual
maintenance that has been required to curate Wikipedia's category system
seems like it could be largely eliminated (or, at least, centralized and
streamlined) once Wikidata queries are deployed. Wikidata properties like
those covered in
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Basic_membership_properties also allow
subjects to be arranged into a taxonomy of concepts, which is one of the
main features of categories.
I'm not aware of any concrete plans to replace the category system with a
solution from Wikidata, but I think it would make more sense to explore
that option than to work on importing Wikipedia categories en masse into
Wikidata.
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Lets forward this to here, maybe somebody here
already thought about
categories in wikidata.
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Datum: 18.07.2013 23:08
Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?
An: "Wikimedia developers" <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Musso <hashar+wmf(a)free.fr>
wrote:
Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =)
That'd be nice, but how much time would that take to develop?
*-- *
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016
Major in Computer Science
www.whizkidztech.com | tylerromeo(a)gmail.com
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