Am 29.06.2014 14:10, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: This is correct. However, there will be no "custom" option: the set of languages supported by wikidata is a well-defined list, controlled by the configuration of the site. It's basically the list of languages MediaWiki supports for the user interface, plus a few special ones. Adding a language can be done based on community consensus. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.

Hoi, You are wrong, Thanks, GerardM On 29 June 2014 15:01, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:37 PM, P. Blissenbach <publi(a)web.de> wrote: Please get them ok'd as available language codes via the language committee. Gerard can surely help you there. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

Hoi, Making languages available for projects is something that is done according to the Wikimedia language policy. In it there is no say at all for the community. The reason being that this proved to be very political and consequently very disruptive. Thanks, GerardM 2014-06-29 15:44 GMT+02:00 Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de>de>:

For instance in "Template:Infobox fictional country" there is a field for fictional mottos, like the one for Syldavia, the fictional country that appears in The Adventures of Tintin: Syldavia (Q1751922) <motto> "Eih bennek, eih blavek." <language> Syldavian (Q2708019) On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de&gt; wrote: -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non

If we are able to use any ISO-639-3 that should do. It worried me hearing "there will be no 'custom' language", when there are language codes like "mis", "mul", "und", "zxx" that mean more or less "custom". Thanks, Micru On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Gerard Meijssen &lt;gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com > Hoi, > The ISO-639-3 has codes for "whatever". We can use a code for "whatever" > and qualify it to a tin foiled hat or tin tin or whatever. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 29 June 2014 21:19, David Cuenca &lt;dacuetu(a)gmail.com> >> For instance in "Template:Infobox fictional country" there is a field for >> fictional mottos, like the one for Syldavia, the fictional country that >> appears in The Adventures of Tintin: >> >> Syldavia (Q1751922) <motto> "Eih bennek, eih blavek." >> <language> Syldavian (Q2708019) >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Lydia Pintscher < >> lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de>> >>> Hey :) >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, David Cuenca &lt;dacuetu(a)gmail.com>>> > What about constructed or invented languages? A list will work for most >>> > cases but there always will be edge cases and adding them to the list >>> will >>> > be too much. >>> > >>> > "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn." >>> >>> Which languages are you worried about specifically? What kind of data >>> would you want to record for them? (I'm trying to get a feeling for >>> how large the problem is and which parts of it are already solved.) >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Lydia >>> >>> -- >>> Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher >>> Product Manager for Wikidata >>> >>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. >>> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 >>> 10963 Berlin >>> www.wikimedia.de >>> >>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. >>> >>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >>> unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das >>> Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Etiamsi omnes, ego non >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non

Am 29.06.2014 16:06, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: I was under the impression that this applies to making a *project* available in a new language. Which means splitting/duplicating the content along the language boundary - which of course is very political. I was not aware that the same applies to *interface* languages. Wikidata of course is special in that you can mix and match content in any interface language. Do you think the language policy applies, or should apply, to which languages can be used e.g. in image descriptions on commons, or for labels on wikidata? Until now, I was under the impression that this was up to the community alone. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.