I am afraid that phase #1 should be finished in the moment, when wikidata-interwiki-data are used by other wikis. And this is not yet. Now Wikidata are some kind of toy, but when these data are not used and when (almost all) interwiki bots updates only other wikis but not the wikidata, phase #1 is not finished.
JAnD
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:57:21 -0600 From: Alexander Jones happy5214@gmail.com
Jan Ku?era wrote:
Hi there,
can we have ONE place where there will be info about current progress and WHEN will be particular phase really launched? I also would like to see reasons why original deadlines were not met... I guess phase #1 was due to about two months ago?
Can it be you already are coding phase #2 while #1 still is not launched? What is the reasoning behind this?
I dont want to be pain in the ass but I think more people might be interested in clearly watching the project progress without having to dig for info themselves. One is getting confused and demotivated for future volunteering seeing targets are not met without much reasoning (or at least much publicly readable communication).
Thx.
Jan
Not a developer, so I can't answer about the deadlines, but phase #1 IS already live on wikidata.org
Alexander
As said, this is correct with regard to deployment. We will not, though, halt developing phase 2 until phase 1 is fully deployed. So development of phase 1 is finished, its deployment is not yet. And we cannot promise or predict when deployment of phase 1 will be completely finished.
Development of phase 2, in the meanwhile, is continuing.
I hope that clears it up.
Cheers, Denny
2012/11/27 Jan Dudík jan.dudik@gmail.com
I am afraid that phase #1 should be finished in the moment, when wikidata-interwiki-data are used by other wikis. And this is not yet. Now Wikidata are some kind of toy, but when these data are not used and when (almost all) interwiki bots updates only other wikis but not the wikidata, phase #1 is not finished.
JAnD
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:57:21 -0600 From: Alexander Jones happy5214@gmail.com
Jan Ku?era wrote:
Hi there,
can we have ONE place where there will be info about current progress
and
WHEN will be particular phase really launched? I also would like to see reasons why original deadlines were not met... I guess phase #1 was due
to
about two months ago?
Can it be you already are coding phase #2 while #1 still is not
launched?
What is the reasoning behind this?
I dont want to be pain in the ass but I think more people might be interested in clearly watching the project progress without having to
dig
for info themselves. One is getting confused and demotivated for future volunteering seeing targets are not met without much reasoning (or at least much publicly readable communication).
Thx.
Jan
Not a developer, so I can't answer about the deadlines, but phase #1 IS already live on wikidata.org
Alexander
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Denny,
thanks for info... Lydia, what about moving and centralizing all wikidata info from Meta to Wikidata.org? And what about having a clear project status right on the homepage of Wikidata.org?
J.
2012/11/27 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de
As said, this is correct with regard to deployment. We will not, though, halt developing phase 2 until phase 1 is fully deployed. So development of phase 1 is finished, its deployment is not yet. And we cannot promise or predict when deployment of phase 1 will be completely finished.
Development of phase 2, in the meanwhile, is continuing.
I hope that clears it up.
Cheers, Denny
2012/11/27 Jan Dudík jan.dudik@gmail.com
I am afraid that phase #1 should be finished in the moment, when wikidata-interwiki-data are used by other wikis. And this is not yet. Now Wikidata are some kind of toy, but when these data are not used and when (almost all) interwiki bots updates only other wikis but not the wikidata, phase #1 is not finished.
JAnD
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:57:21 -0600 From: Alexander Jones happy5214@gmail.com
Jan Ku?era wrote:
Hi there,
can we have ONE place where there will be info about current progress
and
WHEN will be particular phase really launched? I also would like to see reasons why original deadlines were not met... I guess phase #1 was
due to
about two months ago?
Can it be you already are coding phase #2 while #1 still is not
launched?
What is the reasoning behind this?
I dont want to be pain in the ass but I think more people might be interested in clearly watching the project progress without having to
dig
for info themselves. One is getting confused and demotivated for future volunteering seeing targets are not met without much reasoning (or at least much publicly readable communication).
Thx.
Jan
Not a developer, so I can't answer about the deadlines, but phase #1 IS already live on wikidata.org
Alexander
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There is currently no plan from our side to move the project information from Meta to Wikidata. It would be quite a bit of work with no clear benefit.
Whether the status should be shown on the Wikidata home page should be discussed on the talk page of the Wikidata homepage, that's nothing that we as the developers can or want to decide :)
Cheers, Denny
2012/11/28 Jan Kučera kozuch82@gmail.com
Denny,
thanks for info... Lydia, what about moving and centralizing all wikidata info from Meta to Wikidata.org? And what about having a clear project status right on the homepage of Wikidata.org?
J.
2012/11/27 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de
As said, this is correct with regard to deployment. We will not, though, halt developing phase 2 until phase 1 is fully deployed. So development of phase 1 is finished, its deployment is not yet. And we cannot promise or predict when deployment of phase 1 will be completely finished.
Development of phase 2, in the meanwhile, is continuing.
I hope that clears it up.
Cheers, Denny
2012/11/27 Jan Dudík jan.dudik@gmail.com
I am afraid that phase #1 should be finished in the moment, when wikidata-interwiki-data are used by other wikis. And this is not yet. Now Wikidata are some kind of toy, but when these data are not used and when (almost all) interwiki bots updates only other wikis but not the wikidata, phase #1 is not finished.
JAnD
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:57:21 -0600 From: Alexander Jones happy5214@gmail.com
Jan Ku?era wrote:
Hi there,
can we have ONE place where there will be info about current progress
and
WHEN will be particular phase really launched? I also would like to
see
reasons why original deadlines were not met... I guess phase #1 was
due to
about two months ago?
Can it be you already are coding phase #2 while #1 still is not
launched?
What is the reasoning behind this?
I dont want to be pain in the ass but I think more people might be interested in clearly watching the project progress without having to
dig
for info themselves. One is getting confused and demotivated for
future
volunteering seeing targets are not met without much reasoning (or at least much publicly readable communication).
Thx.
Jan
Not a developer, so I can't answer about the deadlines, but phase #1 IS already live on wikidata.org
Alexander
Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
-- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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