On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Sezgin Sucu <sezsucu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
After wikimania, I decided to contribute to wikipedia in my capacity. The
first thing I did was to check out my home town in wiki data, which is Zara
I used the search box, and found that Zara is not listed there. So I used
the option "containing Zara" which did help me find the right entry.
I really cannot replicate your experience. When I look at the search
box, I do find Zara there. And I have no idea where the option
"containing Zara" would be, so I can't know how to use it...
By the way, I see a tremendous impact of automatically
descriptions, which is what was proposed by the gentlemen next to me in our
outdoors meeting in wikimania. There were 4 Zara entries with no
descriptions making it difficult for me to find the correct entry.
In my opinion, I think manual descriptions should be kept, as opposed to be
deleted completely. Instead, automatically generated descriptions should be
provided when there is no manual description and people should be asked to
override automatically generated descriptions. In other words, provide a
default one and let people change it, if for some reason it is not good
Are you sure someone is proposing deleting them? I think you're
fighting a strawman here.
I realized that, it is labeled as "Zara, Turkey" and not Zara.
This seem wrong to me, since "Turkey" part of this label is already in the
data as a country relation.
It appears to be a one-to-one mapping of the wikipedia article's title.
Maybe when first imported from wikipedia, its title is used as is.
I want to verify my understanding that labels of entities should be as short
as possible and should not attempt to disambiguate as it has to be done in
wikipedia article titles.
Again, you seem to be fighting a rule that does not exist. That the
title is "Zara, Turkey" is indeed because it is copied from the
Wikipedia article by that name, but Wikidata welcomes human as well as
automated edits, and I do agree that just "Zara", with Turkey
mentioned in the description, not the title, would be better. However,
a general rules as you specify here would not be a good idea - I do
prefer "United Nations" rather than "UN" as a title, for example. For
now I would like to go with "be bold and use common sense".
André Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com