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Derric Atzrott

10 Nov 2014 10 Nov '14

9:12 p.m.

Some questions: I was looking through the configuration trying to debug my issues from my last email and noticed the list of blacklisted IDs. They appear to be numbers with special meaning. I was curious about two things, why are they blacklisted and what is the meaning of the remaining number? * 1: I imagine that this just refers to #1 * 23: Probably refers to the 23 enigma * 42: Life the universe and everything * 1337: leet * 9001: ISO 9001, which deals with quality assurance * 31337: Elite The only number that left me lost was 720101010. I couldn't figure this one out. This list is located in extensions/Wikibase/repo/config/Wikibase.default.php ------------ Doing a quick grep for the jquery.ui.menu within the Wikidata extension folder I came up with the following results: ./extensions/ValueView/lib/resources.php: 'jquery.ui.autocomplete', // needs jquery.ui.menu ./lib/resources/jquery.wikibase/resources.php: 'jquery.ui.menu', ./lib/resources/jquery.wikibase/resources.php: 'jquery.ui.menu', Just fooling around I decided to comment out the two lines requiring jquery.ui.menu in the jquery.wikibase/resources.php file. Refreshing the page I ran into the same error as before, but this time with a module called JSON. Does the Wikidata extension depend on another extension that adds these resource loader modules? According to ResourceLoader/Default_modules on Mediawiki.org, Mediawiki does not ship with jquery.ui.menu. This does seem a bit weird, because I believe the comment that jquery.ui.autocomplete requires jquery.ui.menu is correct and ResourceLoader includes jquery.ui.autocomplete by default. Am I missing something? I'm definitely confused at this point. ------------ As I wrote this email I was called into my managers office to be informed that I am being laid off as part of a corporate restructuring. They've decided to outsource all of IT. So while I am still curious about the answers to the questions laid out in this email and the previous, this is no longer a project I will be actively working on. I may still fool around with trying to get a Wikibase installation set up on my own. My email for this mailing list will also be changing to my personal email of zellfaze(a)zellfaze.org beginning some time in the next few days. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

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Jeroen De Dauw

11 Nov 11 Nov

9:09 a.m.

Hey, I was looking through the configuration trying to debug my issues from my

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last email and noticed the list of blacklisted IDs. They appear to be numbers with special meaning. I was curious about two things, why are they blacklisted and what is the meaning of the remaining number? * 1: I imagine that this just refers to #1 * 23: Probably refers to the 23 enigma * 42: Life the universe and everything * 1337: leet * 9001: ISO 9001, which deals with quality assurance * 31337: Elite

I guess we probably ought to delete those default values. They where added for something easter-egg like in the Wikidata project, and might well get in the way for third party users. This is also not the list of actual IDs that got blacklisted on Wikidata.org, which was a bit more extensive, and for instance had Q2013, the year in which Wikidata launched. I submitted a removal of these blacklisted IDs from the default config in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/172504/ The only number that left me lost was 720101010. I couldn't figure this one

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out.

720101010 is 1337 for trolololo :) Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3

John Erling Blad

9:27 a.m.

What did I say, etc, etc, etc... It feels good to be right. I was right. Me. I and myself. Some stuff always bites you, even if it was quite fun! ;) On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jeroen De Dauw <jeroendedauw(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hey,

I was looking through the configuration trying to debug my issues from my last email and noticed the list of blacklisted IDs. They appear to be numbers with special meaning. I was curious about two things, why are they blacklisted and what is the meaning of the remaining number? * 1: I imagine that this just refers to #1 * 23: Probably refers to the 23 enigma * 42: Life the universe and everything * 1337: leet * 9001: ISO 9001, which deals with quality assurance * 31337: Elite

The only number that left me lost was 720101010. I couldn't figure this one out.

720101010 is 1337 for trolololo :) Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Denny Vrandečić

10:51 p.m.

+1 for removing the blacklist from the code. On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 12:28:05 AM John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hey, > I was looking through the configuration trying to debug my issues from

> last > email and noticed the list of blacklisted IDs. They appear to be

numbers

> with > special meaning. I was curious about two things, why are they

blacklisted

and what is the meaning of the remaining number? * 1: I imagine that this just refers to #1 * 23: Probably refers to the 23 enigma * 42: Life the universe and everything * 1337: leet * 9001: ISO 9001, which deals with quality assurance * 31337: Elite

I guess we probably ought to delete those default values. They where

added

for something easter-egg like in the Wikidata project, and might well

get in

the way for third party users. This is also not the list of actual IDs

that

got blacklisted on Wikidata.org, which was a bit more extensive, and for instance had Q2013, the year in which Wikidata launched. I submitted a removal of these blacklisted IDs from the default config in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/172504/

The only number that left me lost was 720101010. I couldn't figure this one out.

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Denny Vrandečić

10:51 p.m.

On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 1:51:08 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)google.com> wrote:

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+1 for removing the blacklist from the code. On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 12:28:05 AM John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hey, > I was looking through the configuration trying to debug my issues from

> last > email and noticed the list of blacklisted IDs. They appear to be

numbers

> with > special meaning. I was curious about two things, why are they

blacklisted

I guess we probably ought to delete those default values. They where

added

for something easter-egg like in the Wikidata project, and might well

get in

the way for third party users. This is also not the list of actual IDs

that

The only number that left me lost was 720101010. I couldn't figure this one out.

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Denny Vrandečić

10:51 p.m.

On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 1:51:32 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)google.com> wrote:

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On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 1:51:08 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)google.com> wrote: > +1 for removing the blacklist from the code. > > On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 12:28:05 AM John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> What did I say, etc, etc, etc... It feels good to be right. I was >> right. Me. I and myself. >> Some stuff always bites you, even if it was quite fun! ;) >> >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jeroen De Dauw <jeroendedauw(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Hey, >> > >> >> I was looking through the configuration trying to debug my issues >> from my >> >> last >> >> email and noticed the list of blacklisted IDs. They appear to be >> numbers >> >> with >> >> special meaning. I was curious about two things, why are they >> blacklisted >> >> and >> >> what is the meaning of the remaining number? >> >> >> >> * 1: I imagine that this just refers to #1 >> >> * 23: Probably refers to the 23 enigma >> >> * 42: Life the universe and everything >> >> * 1337: leet >> >> * 9001: ISO 9001, which deals with quality assurance >> >> * 31337: Elite >> > >> > >> > I guess we probably ought to delete those default values. They where >> added >> > for something easter-egg like in the Wikidata project, and might well >> get in >> > the way for third party users. This is also not the list of actual IDs >> that >> > got blacklisted on Wikidata.org, which was a bit more extensive, and >> for >> > instance had Q2013, the year in which Wikidata launched. I submitted a >> > removal of these blacklisted IDs from the default config in >> > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/172504/ >> > >> >> The only number that left me lost was 720101010. I couldn't figure >> this >> >> one out. >> > >> > >> > 720101010 is 1337 for trolololo :) >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > -- >> > Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com >> > Software craftsmanship advocate >> > Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany >> > ~=[,,_,,]:3 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikidata-l mailing list >> > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >

John Erling Blad

12 Nov 12 Nov

9:33 a.m.

There are some people with very strong beliefs about certain numbers, like 13 and 666. Is there anyone that has complained about an assigned number on Wikidata? On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)google.com> wrote:

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On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 1:51:32 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)google.com> wrote:

On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 1:51:08 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)google.com> wrote: > > +1 for removing the blacklist from the code. > > On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 12:28:05 AM John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> What did I say, etc, etc, etc... It feels good to be right. I was >> right. Me. I and myself. >> Some stuff always bites you, even if it was quite fun! ;) >> >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jeroen De Dauw <jeroendedauw(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Hey, >> > >> >> I was looking through the configuration trying to debug my issues >> >> from my >> >> last >> >> email and noticed the list of blacklisted IDs. They appear to be >> >> numbers >> >> with >> >> special meaning. I was curious about two things, why are they >> >> blacklisted >> >> and >> >> what is the meaning of the remaining number? >> >> >> >> * 1: I imagine that this just refers to #1 >> >> * 23: Probably refers to the 23 enigma >> >> * 42: Life the universe and everything >> >> * 1337: leet >> >> * 9001: ISO 9001, which deals with quality assurance >> >> * 31337: Elite >> > >> > >> > I guess we probably ought to delete those default values. They where >> > added >> > for something easter-egg like in the Wikidata project, and might well >> > get in >> > the way for third party users. This is also not the list of actual IDs >> > that >> > got blacklisted on Wikidata.org, which was a bit more extensive, and >> > for >> > instance had Q2013, the year in which Wikidata launched. I submitted a >> > removal of these blacklisted IDs from the default config in >> > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/172504/ >> > >> >> The only number that left me lost was 720101010. I couldn't figure >> >> this >> >> one out. >> > >> > >> > 720101010 is 1337 for trolololo :) >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > -- >> > Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com >> > Software craftsmanship advocate >> > Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany >> > ~=[,,_,,]:3 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikidata-l mailing list >> > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Lydia Pintscher

11:10 a.m.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:33 AM, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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There are some people with very strong beliefs about certain numbers, like 13 and 666. Is there anyone that has complained about an assigned number on Wikidata?

Not that I am aware of. Quite the opposite. People like the easter eggs. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

Derric Atzrott

2:24 p.m.

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* 9001: ISO 9001, which deals with quality assurance

I've been informed that this was actually a joke about over 9000 and not a joke about the current state of the code.

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+1 for removing the blacklist from the code.

I don't mind the blacklist, though I would recommend removing ID 1 from it. That confuses people. The others are high enough up that most people won't notice.

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Not that I am aware of. Quite the opposite. People like the easter eggs.

It gave me a chuckle. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

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