Hoi, When you imply that I do not support Creative Commons and its work on licenses, you are explicitly wrong. It is because of the CC that a harmonisation has taken place. It it thanks to this harmonisation that a lot of material gained a license, becoming accessible. This does not mean that the practice of copyright is not evil, it means that thanks to CC copyright became less open to abuse. I am old school Wikipedia. I strongly believe that our mission is to "share the sum of all knowledge". When people like you aim to claim copyright on Wikipedia articles, you do not argue how this would play. You do not consider how this is a knife that cuts both ways and most prominently will hinder our quest to share the sum of all knowledge to all people. When a company abuses our content by ignoring the license, they gain a public for our content. When this is done right, we benefit; there is a symbiotic relation with Google for instance. The only disadvantage happens when because of a lack of attribution people do not come to Wikipedia or Wikidata to curate the data. Practically the whole license issue of Wikipedia is a mess because it is not enforced and because there are too many copyright warriors claiming that things should be different, never stop arguing and never coming to a practical point. What I am saying is that when multiple sources claim the same thing, it follows that any and all of them can not claim exclusive copyright to it. For me the databus that DBpeida will show how little is original in databases. On the one hand this is cool because it will indicate that such things are likely correct on the other hand it is cool because it will indicate what to curate in order to gain a better understanding. It also follows that in order to bring things into doubt, you must publish facts and strongly support the underlying data in order to be noticed. This is why the work on the gender gap is so important. This is why work needs to be done where all of us / all the databases are weak. This is why fake news is so easy, there is nothing that easily finds where the data goes off the rails. <grin> so then we get to </grin> This is why we need the databus of DBpedia, this is why we should stop mocking DBpedia and collaborate with them in stead of what some say: "everything you can do, we can do better". The fact of the matter is that they do what we might do and we have to learn to collaborate. Now why would you use Wikidata when DBpedia by definition can include all of Wikidata and is better equipped to bring all the data together? You would because it is not the copyright, it is superior functionality. Thanks, GerardM On 17 May 2018 at 17:39, Rob Speer &lt;rob(a)luminoso.com&gt; wrote: