Hi Sam,
thanks for this suggestion. Laying the groundwork for "Structured X"
(and follow-up projects with such a more specific focus) is one of the
key themes of our proposal, and X=history would fit in with several of
the bits we are planning (cf. Task 4.1):
- we aim to bring in metadata from as much of the scholarly literature
as possible, which would always include dates, but may include
pointers to historic events as a topic being discussed in a
publication;
- we also aim to explore use cases around museum collections;
- we plan to build tools that facilitate using and expanding the
Wikidata ontology.
I poked around a bit on the Papyrus site and could not find any
information about their ontology, nor would Google tell me anything
about the CIDAR ontology that you mention - can you provide some
pointers?
In the meantime, the timeline for the proposal submission has been updated:
.
Contributions to any of the items would be much appreciated.
Thanks and cheers,
Daniel
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On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Sam Smith <smsmith508(a)aol.com> wrote:
I am putting ideas together for a project that I am
referring to as "Structured History." The objective is to create a systematic
way of accessing information of an historical nature within an ontological context that
would permit historical reasoning. The elements of the project are (1) access to
structured historical information, which WikiData is beginning to provide, and (2)
relating the body of structured information to one or more overall ontological frameworks,
and then providing the tools for accessing, displaying and analyzing the data. I have not
yet identified an ontology that would be most appropriate for historical purposes, other
than an EU funded project called Papyrus
http://www.ict-papyrus.eu - but this seems to be
used by no one. Therefore, I would suggest that the development of an historical ontology
(possibly building on the work of Papyrus, which in turn built on the museum ontology
CIDAR) be part of a "structured history" project.
The model consists of "historical entities" that can be anything that exists or
existed in time and place (animate, human or inanimate - book, river), Places, and Events
(which may be nested so that a War event can consist of a sequence of Battle events).
If a project of this scope were undertaken, it could provide the framework within which
other projects, such as the history of science, could be developed. Issues with regard to
WikiData are: (1) to what degree will information (that may be available in Wikipedia
articles) be structured sufficiently for incorporation into the structured history
project? (2) How can historical narratives be broken down into elements that can be
collected in a meaningful way that retains semantic validity (veracity)? The system
should be comprehensive enough that all information and artifacts in museums and libraries
could be incorporated, either directly into the ontology or by cross-reference (to CIDAR
for instance).
I would be interested to see if there would be support for such an endeavor, and for
incorporating it into the proposal for WikiData for Research.
Thanks - Sam Smith (SammyWiki)
Michigan
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Dear all,
we are building the Wikidata for Research proposal [1] around use cases for Wikidata (or
Wikibase) in research contexts (cf. Task 4.1).
So if you are using Wikidata or Wikibase in research contexts already, or are
contemplating to do so, we'd appreciate your comments.
The same goes for use cases for DBpedia that would be enhanced by having a Wikidata/
Wikibase implementation.
Thanks,
Daniel
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https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata_for_research
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