Which items, which admin, etc. A little context would help. If the items were appropriate, wait for the community to agree with you before recreating them. On 31 Jul 2016 17:50, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi. > Many items were created for Wikimania talks. They were created because > Wikimania talks represent the best practices of the Wikimedia projects. All > these talks were selected in a process to bring out the best our movement > has to offer in the many years Wikimania was held. All the persons who gave > these presentation are known by either their nick or their name as they > themselves identified them at the time of offering the presentation for > consideration/ > > For whatever reasons a Wikidata admin removed these items without any > discussion. In the discussion that followed other people presented the > arguments why there are no valid arguments for this deletion. A request was > made repeatedly to undelete the items involved. > > Given the current state of affair there is little option but to > recreate these items. It must be noted that the current situation is > problematic on many levels. Among them it became clear that admins do as > they wish and are not held accountable for their actions. The only thing > asked is for the undeletion of items and some sober thought on what may be > expected of a Wikidata admin. > Thanks, > GerardM > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

Hoi, I am not to judge what conferences will be deemed relevant for an item

Wikidata. When a conference is relevant, it is the talks and

registrations of the talks, the papers and the presentations that make

conference relevant after the fact.

Ask yourself what it is about.. It is about the Wikimania talks. What was done is removing all the Wikimania talks without any discussion.

Hi! > Ask yourself what it is about.. It is about the Wikimania talks. What > was done is removing all the Wikimania talks without any discussion. I wonder whether Wikidata is really the best platform to host Wikimania talks and information about it. While I have no doubt these are excellent talks of great interest to Wiki community, their notability in the larger world is a more difficult question. Specifically, would we create an item for every talk even for a major conference (not considering copyright etc. questions now)? We have a lot of conferences with much wider attendance than Wikimania happening each year. Now, Wikimania is of course special - for Wiki movement. And having *some* repository for this content and knowledge would be completely appropriate. However, is that repository Wikidata - as purported to be repository of knowledge of general public interest? I am much less sure of it. Unless we take the wider mission of accepting data about talks on any conference of note - which may be possible, but I'm not sure whether it should be done... If yes, then of course clear policy statement to that effect may be helpful - so people who are not sure about it like me would know what the community consensus has arrived to. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev(a)wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

If, as Jimbo Wales' wrote the purpose of Wikipedia involves imagining "a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing.—Jimbo Wales <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimbo_Wales>[3] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purpose#cite_note-3>" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purpose ... and the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation includes: "The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free license <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:free_content> or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally. In collaboration with a network of chapters <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Local_chapters>, the Foundation provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework for the support and development of multilingual wiki projects <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Our_projects> and other endeavors which serve this mission. The Foundation will make and keep useful information from its projects available on the Internet free of charge <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:gratis>, in perpetuity." https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement I'd vote as a Wikidata community member for aggregating conferences and courses in all languages with machine and wiki (human) processes. Whether this is best done in Wikidata/Wikibase, or another related platform or elsewhere, may be worth exploring process-wise in a number of different Wikidata forums and discussions. This also seems wise, and relatively easy too I.T.-wise, given shared unfolding agreement among Wikidatans and Wikipedians. Friendly regards, Scott CC https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch On Jul 31, 2016 2:18 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" &lt;gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hoi, > There were lists of Wikimania talks for the Wikimanias. So these items > were not standing alone they were in context and THAT is what makes it > attractive to have them. We do have Wikimanias as items and on there own > they do not provide information. Looking at them from only WIkidata you do > not get the picture. Thank <enter your deity> that Magnus has his fantastic > tools that allow us to show the value of data. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 31 July 2016 at 22:47, Stas Malyshev &lt;smalyshev(a)wikimedia.org&gt; > wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> > Ask yourself what it is about.. It is about the Wikimania talks. >> What >> > was done is removing all the Wikimania talks without any discussion. >> >> I wonder whether Wikidata is really the best platform to host >> Wikimania >> talks and information about it. While I have no doubt these are >> excellent talks of great interest to Wiki community, their notability >> in >> the larger world is a more difficult question. Specifically, would we >> create an item for every talk even for a major conference (not >> considering copyright etc. questions now)? We have a lot of >> conferences >> with much wider attendance than Wikimania happening each year. >> >> Now, Wikimania is of course special - for Wiki movement. And having >> *some* repository for this content and knowledge would be completely >> appropriate. However, is that repository Wikidata - as purported to be >> repository of knowledge of general public interest? I am much less >> sure >> of it. Unless we take the wider mission of accepting data about talks >> on >> any conference of note - which may be possible, but I'm not sure >> whether >> it should be done... If yes, then of course clear policy statement to >> that effect may be helpful - so people who are not sure about it like >> me >> would know what the community consensus has arrived to. >> -- >> Stas Malyshev >> smalyshev(a)wikimedia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata