Hi,
there was a talk (here or on project talk, I don't remember) about identical names of properties. In several languages sex (=being male or female) and genus in biology have the same name which is prohibited in property names.
Now, I see ország (rendszertan) (P75)https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P75 in recent changes; ország means country and it also has the biological meaning (plants, animals...)
A good solution would be if these disambiguating words in parentheses could disappear when applying them in phase 2 client. Then we could encourage people to use this form. As we say in Hungary, both the goat has enough and the cabbage remains. I am not sure if I was clear, tell me if not.
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
there was a talk (here or on project talk, I don't remember) about identical names of properties. In several languages sex (=being male or female) and genus in biology have the same name which is prohibited in property names.
Now, I see ország (rendszertan) (P75) in recent changes; ország means country and it also has the biological meaning (plants, animals...)
A good solution would be if these disambiguating words in parentheses could disappear when applying them in phase 2 client. Then we could encourage people to use this form. As we say in Hungary, both the goat has enough and the cabbage remains. I am not sure if I was clear, tell me if not.
So to make sure I get this right: you're talking about how this is shown on the client, so in this case in the article on Wikipedia? If so then the name of the property shouldn't have any influence on how it is shown there. The local editors can code their new infobox and give it whatever label they want pretty much.
Cheers Lydia
Oh, that's great! So there will be a "dictionary" to substitute the property names with appearing names or soething like that? Or will it be determined template by template? So this is the solution to avoid identical property names: an extension in parentheses.
2013/2/20 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
there was a talk (here or on project talk, I don't remember) about
identical
names of properties. In several languages sex (=being male or female) and genus in biology have the same name which is prohibited in property
names.
Now, I see ország (rendszertan) (P75) in recent changes; ország means country and it also has the biological meaning (plants, animals...)
A good solution would be if these disambiguating words in parentheses
could
disappear when applying them in phase 2 client. Then we could encourage people to use this form. As we say in Hungary, both the goat has enough and the cabbage remains. I am not sure if I was clear, tell me if not.
So to make sure I get this right: you're talking about how this is shown on the client, so in this case in the article on Wikipedia? If so then the name of the property shouldn't have any influence on how it is shown there. The local editors can code their new infobox and give it whatever label they want pretty much.
Cheers Lydia
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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, that's great! So there will be a "dictionary" to substitute the property names with appearing names or soething like that? Or will it be determined template by template?
Yes, template by template.
Cheers Lydia