Hey,

Many thanks for your answers, Magnus! For now, it's good to know that rejecting/skipping doesn't change the bucket.  I'm testing all these tools at the moment writing down general notions and development wishes. I could present these later after I've put some time into this.

On the other hand, being new to the game, should we continue this discussion here or should I contact you, Magnus, directly? In other words, is this mailing list the right place to discuss fine details of a specific Wikidata linking tool or no? I'd be happy to get any guidance and wouldn't want to trouble everyone with all too specific issues if such is the case. Thank you!

Best,
Tuomas / National Library of Finland
Lähettäjä: Wikidata <wikidata-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> käyttäjän Magnus Manske <magnusmanske@googlemail.com> puolesta
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Aihe: Re: [Wikidata] Questions about Mix'n'match tool
 
Hi,

I am the author of Mix'n'match, so I hope I can answer your questions.

Match mode:
By default, "match mode" only shows unmatched entries, example:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/random/473

You can force pre-matched entries, but currently they won't show the automatic predictions:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/random/473/prematched

If you/others like it, I can have predictions show for auto-matched as well, and/or mix unmatched and pre-matched in results.

"Next entry" (aka skip) will never change the bucket (pre-matched/unmatched).


Mobile game:
The mobile game shows unmatched only. There is currently no override.
This would be easy to change as well, if desired, though I'd probably have to show/highlight the pre-matched entry somehow.

"Skip" will never change the bucket (pre-matched/unmatched).


Visual tool:
The visual tool will show entries from both pre-matched and unmatched.

"Load another one" (aka "skip") will never change the bucket (pre-matched/unmatched).

I hope that answers your questions, please let me know if there is anything else I can do!

Cheers,
Magnus

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:26 AM Palonen, Tuomas Y E <tuomas.palonen@helsinki.fi> wrote:
Hello,

I am an information specialist at the National Library of Finland, where I am linking our General Finnish Ontology YSO (30,000+ concepts with terms in Finnish-Swedish-English) to Wikidata at the moment. I just joined this mailing list. I am currently using Mix'n'match tool and would have a couple of questions. I would be very happy for any answers or contact info to someone who might have the answers. Thank you very much! Here are my questions:
  • Is there a connection in Mix'n'match between the Preliminarily matched/Unmatched division and any of the three: Match mode, Mobile matching, Visual tool?
  • More precisely, are the link suggestions provided by Match mode / Mobile matching / Visual tool created only from Preliminary matched list, only from Unmatched list or from both?
  • Also, if I reject a link suggestion in Match mode / Mobile matching / Visual tool, will that concept be added to the Unmatched list?
This would be important for my own (and possibly anybody else's) Mix'n'match work flow / method. If it was up to me, I would suggest rejected concepts not be added to the Unmatched list, but that's just me. I am planning to write a report of my linking project in the future, where I will most likely include some development suggestions / wishes. One immediate wish is that it would be great to tag or somehow put aside link suggestions that require more research and cannot be decided on the spot (for example, Wikidata items may include poor Finnish/Swedish terms and may require some corrections before I can do the linking).

Thanks for your help!
Best regards,
Tuomas / National Library of Finland
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