We can create as many specialized classes as we want. That lists are more
specific than classes is not a fatality.
I think having a list about instances of a concept proves the concept is
useful, so that the class is something that could exists. Moreother if we
manually mark an item as an instance of such a class, in only one statement
we add a lot of informations and maybe a few properties could be
automatically added by a bot.
2015-06-15 18:09 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com>om>:
Also the list entity has a function. The function of
*instance of* is to
identify what a page is about. A database is built on consistency, the list
entity does do that for lists. A list is a very special type of a subject
in comparison to other articles. It isn't linked through topic type
properties. By using a list entity this kind of items are identified as
such. Likewise for dps, categories, templates, etc.
Romaine
2015-06-15 17:53 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Good <ben.mcgee.good(a)gmail.com>om>:
This is an important question. There are
apparently 196,839 known list
items based on a query for instanceOf Wikipedia list item
(CLAIM[31:13406463])
http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A13406463%5D
I tend to agree with Thad that these kinds of items aren't really what we
want filling in WikiData. In fact replacing them with the ability to
generate them automatically based on queries is a primary use case for
wikidata. But just deleting them doesn't entirely make sense either
because they are key signposts into things that ought to be brought into
wikidata properly. The items in these lists clearly matter..
Ideally we could generate a bot that would examine each of these lists
and identify the unifying properties that should be added to the items
within the list that would enable the list to be reproduced by a query.
I disagree that this reasoning suggests deleting items about categories
and disambiguation pages. - both of these clearly have functions in
wikidata. I'm not sure what the function of a list entity is.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com
wrote:
By this reasoning we should also delete items
about categories or
disambiguation pages.
Thad Guidry, 15/06/2015 17:21:
Ex. List of tallest buildings in Wuhan -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6642364
What's the issue here? The item doesn't actually contain any list, there
is no duplication or information "clumped together".
Nemo
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