Hoi,

Given the opposition to having statements on the level of the label, it does not make sense to have Wiktionary included in Wikidata.

Thanks,

      GerardM

On 8 May 2015 at 06:19, Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic@gmail.com> wrote:

I would disagree with requiring the Wiktionary communities to change their ways. Instead we should adapt our plans to fit into the way they are set up.

Even if the English Wiktionary community would change to have per-language pages instead of the current system, it would be rather unlikely that all other language editions of Wiktionary would follow in a timely manner. I would prefer to leave this decision to the autonomy of the projects, and instead adapt to them (which is, by the way, what the proposal does).

Yair, as Daniel said, the current Wiktionary pages would not be mapped to Q-Items. Since this was unclear, I tried to update the text to make it clearer. Let me know if it is still confusing.

I do not think a separate Wikibase instance would be needed to provide the data for Wiktionary. I think this can and should be done on Wikidata. But as said by Milos and pointed out by Gerard, lexical knowledge does indeed require a different data schema. This is why the proposal introduces new entity types for lexemes, forms, and senses. The data model is mostly based on lexical ontologies that we surveyed, like LEMON and others.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@gmail.com> wrote:

Andy Mabbett, 07/05/2015 22:53:
>> >The Wiktionary communities tend to strongly disagree that splitting entries
>> >per language would be easier for either editors or readers.
> How many languages are currently used? How will this scale to ~300 languages?

Hm? Last time I counted, the English Wiktionary alone used way more than
300 languages.

Nemo

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