On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:27:02 +0100, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84@gmail.com>
wrote:

> About this:
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:13 PM, David Cuenca <dacuetu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Connecting new uploaded books with Wikidata: again this is very related
>> to
>> the above. As a first preparatory step, one GsoC of this year worked on
>> using templates (like "commons:Template:Book") directly with the
>> UploadWizard. It generates the form according to a template, which in
>> turn
>> could create both a Wikidata item and a Wikisource page when the
uploaded
>> file is a book. However this has been stalled due to this RFC on
Commons:
>>
>>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/How_Commons_should_deal_with_TemplateData
>>
>
> how this concerns us?
>
> Sorry, but I don't really understand this TemplateData issue.
> Uploading books directly from Wikisource (entering all the important
> metadata, that would go to Commons, Wikisource and Wikidata) is a
crucial
> *feature* that we absolutely need.
> What is the problem, here, specifically?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Aubrey

From my point of view, an upload form should be focused at Wikidata more
than at Commons, anything else is back-to-front.

If we are talking about a published work that it is published is its own
"notability" and transcends whether it is at Wikisource, Commons, or
Wikipedia, such that it is published makes it Wikidata-able (to coin a
word). We can easily support this statement as copyright alone will prevent
a work from appearing at Wikisource or WikiCommons, and similarly some
published works may not be individually notable for Wikipedia, but may be
so for other reference, thinking here of things that have a DOI.

*Then* comes the issue of which site wishes to utilise the data.  So
having Wikidata as the primary entry point to enter "book" data, and then
call it from other places as required seems the logical place to start for
any new work at any of the places.

Regards Billinghurst

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