Hello Lydia,

I can understand that it is not restored back in the previous situation, but this is not an improvement. Editing Wikidata is made harder, more difficult, and more clumpsy. This change of a new design is counter-productive. For months we are asking people to add stuff to Wikidata if they created an article, we stop with that. We really can't explain this change. It is also counter-productive if a wrong decision is made and the effects for end users are ignored, while they have (or had) to deal with it every time. This version is not an improvement but a step back in time. I am sure you and your team have been working hard on this, but apparently in the process it has been missed how a lot of users work with Wikidata.

That you notice some issues is fine, but that is no answer at all to the current complaints. Seeing the reactions from other users elsewhere I am not alone in this.

But one question is answered, you are not willing to restore a better version of the software to restore the downfall but want to keep this annoying not handy working version.

To everyone:

The second question is not answered yet: is anyone able to write a gadget/script to bypass this not working situation?

Thanks!

Romaine

2014-10-09 9:27 GMT+02:00 Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de>:

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Recently Wikidata was changed which caused it much more work for especially
> power users. It is no longer easy to add/change parts of pages. Each time I
> now have to edit a section and save it before I can continue in another
> section.
>
> A simple adding of 4 pages results in much more clicks.
> Was: click + paste + save + add + lang + paste + save
> Now: edit + click + paste + scrolling + save (outside my screen) + edit +
> add + lang + paste + save (on not expecting place)
> And that four times...
> This creates a much less efficient working situation.
> That is not workable.
>
> Can the previous situation be restored?
> Or can someone write a gadget so that this change is bypassed?

Hey Romaine,

What you are seeing is an intermediate step in the work on the new
design. Looking back we should have given this another two weeks of
work before rolling it out. We will not be rolling this back however
as that'd be non-trivial and counter-productive. We will instead fix
the issues the current version has and push further towards the new
design.
The current issues I am aware of:
* Edit conflicts often happening when editing more than one data
point. In our testing this didn't happen so we are investigating why
this is happening on the live-system now. Fix is high priority.
* Long scrolling when editing an item with many sitelinks. You can
press enter to save whatever you entered without needing to scroll up.
That will help you right now. We will look into additional
improvements over the next days.

In the bug report you mention being able to edit a section while in
edit mode for another section. That has never been possible. Can you
clarify that please?

Cheers
Lydia

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