Re: [Wikidata] Maintenance scripts for clients

John: List mode!

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:16 AM Zolo ... <zoloinwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > About missing labels: in frwiki, most Wikidata data are added using > Module:Wikidata. The module adds a generic "to be translated" category

> there is no French label. With Wikidata usage picking up speed, the > community is finally coming to grip with it, as can be seen from that

> at Catégorie:Page utilisant des données de Wikidata à traduire. > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:06 PM, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com>

>> >> Nice solution, I'll post a link at Wikipedia:Torget. >> It is a bit like making a traffic statistic by using a road cam, so it >> wasn't really what I was looking for.. >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Magnus Manske >> <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> > I set up one of my tools for you (nowiki) for [1] : >> > https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/duplicity.php >> > >> > It doesn't give you a list (though I could add that), rather presents >> > you >> > with a random one and tries to find a matching item. Basically, what >> > you >> > need to do anyway for due diligence. >> > >> > >> > Not quite sure what else you need, too much "somehow" in your >> > description... >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> We lack several maintenance scripts for the clients, that is human >> >> readable special pages with reports on which pages lacks special >> >> treatment. In no particular order we need some way to identify >> >> unconnected pages in general (the present one does not work [1]), we >> >> need some way to identify pages that are unconnected but has some >> >> language links, we need to identify items that are used in some >> >> language and lacks labels (almost like [2],but on the client and for >> >> items that are somehow connected to pages on the client), and we

>> >> to identify items that lacks specific claims and the client pages

>> >> a specific template. >> >> >> >> There are probably more such maintenance pages, these are those that >> >> are most urgent. Now users start to create categories to hack around >> >> the missing maintenance pages, which create a bunch of

>> >> At Norwegian Bokmål there are just a few scripts that utilize data >> >> from Wikidata, still the number of categories starts to grow large. >> >> >> >> For us at the "receiving end" this is a show stopper. We can't >> >> convince the users that this is a positive addition to the pages >> >> without the maintenance scripts, because them we more or less are in >> >> the blind when we try to fix errors. We can't use random pages to

>> >> to prod the pages to find something that is wrong, we must be able

>> >> search for the errors and fix them. >> >> >> >> This summer we (nowiki) have added about ten (10) properties to the >> >> infobokses, some with scripts and some with the property parser >> >> function. Most of my time I have not been coding, and I have not

>> >> fixing errors. I have been trying to explain to the community why >> >> Wikidata is a good idea. At one point the changes was even reverted >> >> because someone disagree with what we had done. The whole thing >> >> basically revolves around "my article got an Q-id in the infobox

>> >> don't know how to fix it". We know how to fix it, and I have

>> >> that to the editors at nowiki several times. They still don't get

>> >> so we need some way to fix it, and we don't have maintenance scripts >> >> to do it. >> >> >> >> Right now we don't need more wild ideas that will swamp the >> >> development for months and years to come, we need maintenance

>> >> and we need them now! >> >> >> >> [1] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:UnconnectedPages >> >> [2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel >> >> [3] >> >> >> >>

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