Hi both,
"Private university" might be worthwhile as a subclass for Q23002042
(and as a subclass of university as well) - feel free to create new
taxonomy elements and slot them into place if it would be appropriate
:-)
P749 implies to me that it's actually part of the parent in some
organisational way - so eg a department or faculty would be P749 of
the university, but the university wouldn't be P749 of the funding
body - this would only be used for things like the various bits of the
University of California.
For the funding question, we have P2770 ("source of income") which
might work here. You could link to the items for the national/state
funding bodies as appropriate.
Andrew.
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 18:17, Tobias Zeumer <tzeumer@verweisungsform.de> wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I recently needed the same distinction for german universities. I used these three qualifiers as "instance of" for the institutions, primarily because they were already predominantly set for existing universities:
>
> Q875538 (public university); "university that is predominantly funded by public means"; https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyapa6owx&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bb027d409b34a67cc4108d6199e8396%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636724565927757871&sdata=bvfFWnAwCLNdtVaJaw9y%2BYh3j9WuUZfvk6pttRdjzIg%3D&reserved=0
> Q1743327 (church college); roughly translated the german description says "university in church sponsorship"; https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fycy8rpjf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bb027d409b34a67cc4108d6199e8396%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636724565927757871&sdata=WljsAFRzE%2BsabBMrjWwe%2FJdEL7349JnrvWBhCVoBgmw%3D&reserved=0
> Q23002042 (private educational institution) "educational institution not primarily funded by public means"; https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyc6gn3zt&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bb027d409b34a67cc4108d6199e8396%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636724565927757871&sdata=y7sdUYTfHQaDIuwx1VD5xgUYtYZUHTDCKka%2BkpMZmMg%3D&reserved=0
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> The last is not exactly the best match, but at least it's a subclass of educational institution like the others. But since it was my first try with Wikidata I'm by no means sure I decided for the best ones. So, I'd be interested in the answers too :)
>
> @Victor: Regarding the funding maybe P749 "parent organization" could be used - at least I think it is (sometimes) used this way too...
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
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> Hi there!
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> I'm planning to do a mass import of the Brazilian database of Higher Education Institutions (2011 census) to Wikidata, updating existing institutions and add the missing ones. (I could use some help :)
>
> One of the issues I foresee is the distinction between private and public educational institutions is done via subclassing instead of properties. There's a university subclass public university that I can use, but how should I indicate that the institution is maintained with federal, state or city funds?
>
> Should I put the country in affiliation in the former and the state in affiliation in the latter? Should I propose a new property?
>
> Or even better and hopefully the case, is there an even more specific property that I can use for this?
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> Also, how to indicate that some are non-profit and some are for-profit?
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> Thanks,
> Victor
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