Hi Jan, Léa, Markus and Wikidatans,

Thanks for your email, Jan. I'd really like to learn how to add short or very long lists to a) Wikipedia and b) Wikidata and c) together, and in multiple, comparable languages - and help create a help page for this, as well as focus Wikipedia / Wikidata video tutorials for this. I'd also like to learn how to add sub lists of these.

While https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input/Scenario_C_splitting might go a little bit in the right direction, I'm mainly interested in how I and a help page could clarify adding new lists at this point to Wikipedia and Wikidata.

In terms of SHORT LISTS, and as examples for me, referring to your questions, I'd like to learn how to add to Wikidata or Wikipedia short lists such as CC MIT OCW in Chinese - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/traditional-chinese/ (with 120 courses) - and in Spanish - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/spanish/ (with 94 courses) (and in its other 6 languages - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/) . See too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCourseWare.

I'm also interested in learnin to add an already existing list in Wikipedia to Wikidata eg CC Yale OYC (http://oyc.yale.edu/) (with 42 courses, as well as the links within each course, as possible sublists) to Yale OYC in Wikidata - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1091983 since there's already a list of Yale OYC in Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Yale_Courses).

In terms of LONG LISTS, and more complex wiki list-adding (by wiki I mean by any end users from help pages, with help from Wikidatans) - thank you, Jan - here are three examples -

Adding Wikitionary lists to Glottolog list in Wikipedia -

If I had successfully added a list of all 7,943 languages from CC Glottolog to CC Wikipedia, I would then like to be able to add lists of CC Wiktionary entries to each of these 8k languages (and perhaps in conjunction with MediaWiki Content Translation - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation - for new kinds of Wikipedia / WMF / Wikidata translation). Re these two lists together, I'd like too to be able to add furthermore lists of a) whole written words, b) parts/syllables of written words, c) spoken whole words d) phonemes - spoken parts or units of words to each of the 358 Wikipedia languages (of the 7,943 languages). And how would this work on a help page on the Wikidata side?

Adding cellular level lists (re potentially long lists)

I'd like to be able to add lists of species - and especially those that are ambiguous such as unicellular organisms and not in Wikipedia (which could be very long lists), e.g.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicellular_organism

(and re https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_problem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species

https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/directory?direction=desc&sort=extinction_status as database-interelated examples)

Adding nano (very very small or atomic level - and potentially ginormous lists, too) level

How best to plan for how-to-wiki-add lists at the nano level - and add this information to a help page (for WUaS/Wikidata brain research, example)?

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanomaterials

http://listverse.com/2015/05/11/10-man-made-nanomaterials-with-futuristic-powers/

http://bionanotech.uniss.it/?p=760)

Does

cellular (neuronal) and nano (atomic?)

refer to something like the possibility to create lists of lists?

In part, yes - in that lists of lists would be "largest lists" of an item.

Here are the three help pages that we've shared so far - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input/Scenario_C_splitting - but none of them seems to help me add a list to Wikipedia easily. (Am I reading these correctly?)

Could we also add to such a possible new "Wikipedia-Wikidata List Generation" help page per your suggestion (and my previous email in this thread), something along the lines of "3 tutorial videos about Wikidata: an intro to Wikidata, how to edit Wikidata and Wikidata Sparql Query Tutorial by Ewan McAndrew, Navino Evans and Sean McBirnie" which were just shared in this weeks Wikidata new. I haven't watched these in full yet - Ewan ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=GFh9gVUgbuA and and ) - so if I'm missing something about Wikipedia list-adding and Wikidata list-adding per my email above please let me know. Thank you, Ewan, Navino and Sean! Wikidata conferences from the past may be great source material for some of these questions.

In terms of making wiki-list-adding very easy with voice, and possibly to add "how in voice" to a developing Wikidata help page for "Wikipedia-Wikidata List Generation" (if there are / could be a few voice steps, for example), I tried again asking my Android voice system, for example, on my cell phone to "Please add to Wikidata a list of Creative Commons' licensed Yale Open Yale Courses " - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1091983 and at the top of the list was another Wikidata help page - https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:About_data - but no list was added yet :).

(A few months ago I mentioned what I was able to achieve in voice in adding lists to Wikipedia / Wikidata as well).

Markus and Léa, how please would I begin please to add lists of a) Wikipedia/Wikidata languages with WUaS's SUBJECT TEMPLATE and b) add lists of MIT OCW in 7 languages and Yale OYC to Wikidata with a WUaS Course Catalog and c) a list of matriculated students/open learners/teachers with the above? WUaS would like to start reaching out for student applicants to accrediting WUaS this autumn.

Thank you.

Kind Regards,

Scott

Here are my recent emails in this thread -

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/liliaceae-wikidata-list-generation.html

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Jan Dittrich <jan.dittrich@wikimedia.de> wrote:

Hello Scott,
Thanks for your input! If I understand this right, your concern is that there might be lists like "list of species" which are impossible (with several million entries) to have as single list?

There is the splitting lists scenario, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input/Scenario_C_splitting
Does this go in the right direction for you (even though with far fewer items)?

Does
cellular (neuronal) and nano (atomic?)
refer to something like the possibility to create lists of lists?

Kind Regards,
Jan

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Hi Léa, Jan, Gerard, Markus, Wikidatans and All,

I've read at different times that there are anywhere from 3 to 100 million
species (the latter would be a long list indeed!) and when you get probably
to different lists at the cellular (neuronal) and nano (atomic?) levels,
for example, the lists will probably get "way" longer :)

Thank you, Scott

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