On 13 August 2014 20:27, Bene*
<benestar.wikimedia(a)gmail.com
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Hi,
On 13 August 2014 20:16, James Forrester wrote:
On 13 August 2014 20:08, Bene*
<benestar.wikimedia(a)gmail.com
<mailto:benestar.wikimedia@gmail.com>>wrote:
As for mapping Wikipedia templates to wikidata
properties I think James F. mentioned something about
including that into templatedata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/TemplateData
That's not quite right; I don't think TemplateData is
necessarily the right avenue for Wikidata, though of course
it might be possible to extend it for this case.
To VisualEditor, Wikidata properties are "just" another
kind of transclusion, like templates, magic words, and
parser functions. It's possible for VisualEditor to see an
existing Wikidata reference as just another transclusion and
not care where it comes from. For example, if you had the
wikitext "{{#property:P646}}" (Freebase identifier) on
enwiki's Foobar, you get something that sort-of looks
reasonable
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17195534/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-13%20at%2019.29.49.png>
but
is not very user-friendly.
We haven't yet built in anything that lets you edit existing
non-template transclusions very well[0], and we also don't
support creating them yet (which is probably best done with
a little pop-up listing all the available properties, their
values and maybe description in the user's language).
Ok, the transclusion with |{{#property}}| is one point which
perhaps isn't too hard to solve. However, most of the
infoboxes etc. will perhaps be created by a lua module and
then it isn't trivial any more to find the place some
specific information comes from. This is the point I think
will make the thing tricky.
Sure, but an infobox is just a nested version of VisualEditor
(or, will be soon), with each field being its own edit surface.
Doing infoboxen with Lua is profoundly anti-wiki and hopefully
won't be done.
Afaik the infoboxes won't have any parameters once
they use
Wikidata and be fully constructed using Lua. If I'm not correct I
have to apologize but that's the latest thing I know.
If the infobox really has no options and just builds itself entirely
automatically, why not just move it out of the wikitext/etc. content
entirely and display it always? This makes pages much easier to edit
in wikitext (no KiB of {{…}} at the top, no confusing stuff at all,
nothing to break) and simplifies a lot of things…