Admittedly I have been crazy busy with things unrelated to Wikimedia projects, so I haven&#39;t followed this discussion, but I&#39;d like to ask for a clarification on Wikivoyage interwiki links. If they&#39;re going to be on the same item page as the Wikipedia interwiki links, is there going to be a dedicated section for WV links separate (and clearly labeled) from the existing Wikipedia interwiki links, or are both sets of links going to be in the same list.<div>
<br></div><div>i.e. are we going to have</div><div><br></div><div>Wikipedia</div><div>en: New York City</div><div>es: New York City</div><div>it: New York City</div><div><br></div><div>Wikivoyage</div><div><div>en: New York City</div>
<div>es: New York City</div><div>it: New York City</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>or are we going to have</div><div><br></div><div><div>wp:en: New York City</div><div>wv:en: New York City</div><div>wp:es: New York City</div>
<div>wv:es: New York City</div><div>wp:it: New York City</div></div><div>wv:it: New York City</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I really, really hope it&#39;s two separate lists. Otherwise things are going to become unnecessarily complicated/difficult. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>S</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 5:45 PM, legoktm <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:legoktm.wikipedia@gmail.com" target="_blank">legoktm.wikipedia@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Denny,<br></div>I&#39;m really excited to see a sister project getting included, however I&#39;m concerned that the community needs a bit more time and notice (I didn&#39;t see anything about this on WD:PC). When importing interwiki links for Wikipedias, we had a few months before they were used on client sites. The proposed schedule gives our bots ~3 days to import a majority of links, which I don&#39;t think is enough time. A whole week would be much better in my opinion.<br>


</div>I&#39;ve also started a page on-wiki to help coordinate the migration: <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikivoyage_migration" target="_blank">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikivoyage_migration</a><br clear="all">


<div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div>-- Legoktm<br><br></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Denny Vrandečić <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de" target="_blank">denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">


<div dir="ltr">Sorry, I had a typo in the title of my last Email. It should be Wikivoyage obviously, not Wikileaks or Wikisomethingelse.<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Denny<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">




2013/6/28 Denny Vrandečić <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de" target="_blank">denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">




<div dir="ltr"><div>Hey all,</div><div><br></div><div>as discussed yesterday in the call, here is our current plan for deploying interwikilinks to Wikivoyage. If there are no complaints from your side by Tuesday, we will share this plan with the Wikivoyage communities and the Wikidata community on Wednesday.</div>





<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Wed, July 17th: Branching Wikibase 1.22-wmf12</div><div><br></div><div>Thu, July 18th: Deploying wmf12 to the test systems and setting up configurations for Wikivoyage on test. This means, the Test Wikidata can accept links to Wikivoyage sites.</div>





<div><br></div><div>Mon, July 22nd: Deploying wmf12 to <a href="http://wikidata.org" target="_blank">wikidata.org</a> and setting the configuration to accept Wikivoyage links as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Thu, July, 25th: Deploying wmf12 client to all Wikivoyage.org language editions. From this moment on, Wikivoyage can access interwiki links from Wikidata, and does not need to have them locally anymore.</div>





<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Notes:</div><div><br></div><div>* Wikivoyage will only get access to the interwikis for now, not to other data in Wikidata. This is planned for later, but we just want to go step by step (i.e. only &quot;phase 1&quot;)</div>





<div><br></div><div>* Wikipedia will not automatically and suddenly display links to Wikivoyage. The behavior on Wikipedia actually remains completely unchanged by this deployment.</div><div><br></div><div>
* Wikivoyage will not automatically get links to Wikipedia and display them (currently called &quot;Related sites&quot;). This is also left for later.</div><div><br></div><div>* Further sister projects are planned for later, depending how smoothly this deployment goes.</div>





<div><br></div><div>* There is no need for an additional item for e.g. New York for Wikivoyage, but rather the links to Wikivoyage can be entered in the same item that also holds the links to Wikipedia.</div><div>
<br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Denny</div><div><br></div><div>P.S.: Ken, you might consider joining the Wikidata tech list. This is where we send the agenda for the Thursday calls around.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>





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