Thanks, Peter,

I agree with You, I was wrong before. But also the stated as (P1932) has certain info value 

and both the stated as (P1932) and the determination method (P459) could be additive ones.


Michal



Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:30:49 -0700
From: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project
        <wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org>, "Pavlovic, Michal"
        <Michal.Pavlovic@newayselectronics.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikidata] frequency of qualifier predicates
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Here is my breakdown of the top-10-by-usage qualifier predicates:

>From https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fsqid%2F%23%2Fbrowse%3Ftype%3Dproperties&amp;data=01%7C01%7Cmichal.pavlovic%40newayselectronics.com%7Cd871cc7bb7fc4860802b08d5ed6f4a7f%7Cec7e8b70c75743cc90e8805ad967f616%7C1&amp;sdata=Zcadp6KEdnQep5I3fZFikbxKqplLiKNuFI2OnktM2YA%3D&amp;reserved=0 as of 13 July 2018

                        Label (ID)                       statements qualifiers

temporal qualifier      point in time (P585)            336561  3147744
temporal qualifier      start time (P580)               73298   1912311
temporal qualifier      end time (P582)                 54482   1236121
temporal qualifier      valid in period (P1264)         67 656749       
spatial qualifier       chromosome (P1057)              128429  1397383
certainty  qualifier?   determination method (P459)     30      3407191
no information          stated as (P1932)               3       667358
additive                number of points scored (P1351) 1079    644273
additive                number of matches played (P1350) 1507   628272
additive                taxon author (P405)       0       463363

On 07/18/2018 07:39 AM, Pavlovic, Michal wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> of the top ten qualifier properties by usage I find maybe just the stated as
> (P1932) as contextual one.
>
> Please, can You send examples of them of contextual and additive?
>
>  
>
> regards
>
> Michal Pavlovic
>
> BaaN/Infor-Administrator
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 08:32:43 -0700
> From: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
> To: wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikidata] frequency of qualifier predicates
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>
> That does the trick, thanks.
>
> I was trying to see how many uses of Wikidata qualifiers are contextual (i.e.,
> give information about in which context the statement is valid) and which were
> additive (i.e., do not limit where the statement is valid).  
>
> Of the top ten qualifier properties by usage, five are contextual, three are
> additive, and one does not carry world information.  The last can be
> considered to be contextual, but also might be considered to not carry world
> information.
>
> peter
>
>
> On 07/14/2018 01:19 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 1:42 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider
>> <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm trying to get a good estimate of how often which qualifier predicate is used.
>>>
>>>
>>> The obvious query times out, as expected, so I was trying to find a list of
>>> predicates that are used as qualifiers so that I can craft a query for each of
>>> them.  There is
>>> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fwiki%2FWikidata%3AList_of_properties%2FWikidata_qualifier&amp;data=01%7C01%7Cmichal.pavlovic%40newayselectronics.com%7C0ed4fdecc1174ed0e9f108d5ea4a99b7%7Cec7e8b70c75743cc90e8805ad967f616%7C1&amp;sdata=NL6J1A7zkPT9FT%2Fvbmx8f1lDj6WoycOkie8yUAcv2qI%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>> but that can't be trusted as it doesn't include start time (P580) or end time
>>> (P582) which I expect to be the most common qualifier predicates.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, I'm stumped.   Any suggestions?
>> There is https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fsqid%2F%23%2Fbrowse%3Ftype%3Dproperties&amp;data=01%7C01%7Cmichal.pavlovic%40newayselectronics.com%7C0ed4fdecc1174ed0e9f108d5ea4a99b7%7Cec7e8b70c75743cc90e8805ad967f616%7C1&amp;sdata=aPaVTA%2FWb45U%2BqBxMBoThvX8sPs43%2BFYZtuMyVFwTmE%3D&amp;reserved=0
> which
>> might help you.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lydia




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