Hi Mathieu,

On 04-07-18 11:07, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote:

Hi,

Le 19/05/2018 à 03:35, Denny Vrandečić a écrit :

Regarding attribution, commonly it is assumed that you have to respect it transitively. That is one of the reasons a license that requires BY sucks so hard for data: unlike with text, the attribution requirements grow very quickly. It is the same as with modified images and collages: it is not sufficient to attribute the last author, but all contributors have to be attributed.

If we want our data to be trustable, then we need traceability. That is reporting this chain of sources as extensively as possible, whatever the license require or not as attribution. CC-0 allow to break this traceability, which make an aweful license to whoever is concerned with obtaining reliable data.

A license is not the way to achieve this. We have references for that.

This is why I think that whoever wants to be part of a large federation of data on the web, should publish under CC0.

As long as one aim at making a federation of untrustable data banks, that's perfect. ;)

So I see you started forum shopping (trying to get the Wikimedia-l people in) and making contentious trying to be funny remarks. That's usually a good indication a thread is going nowhere.

No, Wikidata is not going to change the CC0. You seem to be the only person wanting that and trying to discredit Wikidata will not help you in your crusade. I suggest the people who are still interested in this to go to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728 and make useful comments over there.

Maarten

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