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1. Re: Wikidata reconciliation service and Ope Refine
(Sandra Fauconnier)
2. Re: Wikidata reconciliation service and Ope Refine
(Antonin Delpeuch (lists))
3. Re: Wikidata reconciliation service and Ope Refine
(Antonin Delpeuch (lists))
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 14:12:53 +0100
From: Sandra Fauconnier <sandra.fauconnier@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata reconciliation service and Ope Refine
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+1 from someone who would be so extremely happy (and much more productive) if such a service were implemented in OpenRefine.
I also added it as a task to Phabricator, feel free to comment, add suggestions… https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146740 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146740>
Best, Sandra/User:Spinster
On 26 Jan 2017, at 19:00, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone,
Yes, our OpenRefine API can use Multiple Query Mode (reconciling an Entity by using multiple columns/ WD properties)
https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/wiki/Reconciliation-Service-API#multiple-query-mode <https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/wiki/Reconciliation-Service-API#multiple-query-mode>
I do not think that Magnus has implemented our Multiple Query Mode yet, however.
The bounty issue https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/805 <https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/805> that I created and funded on BountySource.com is to fully implement the Mutliple Query Mode API and ensure that it works correctly in OpenRefine 2.6 RC2 latest.
Happy Hacking anyone :)
Let us know if we can answer any questions regarding OpenRefine or the Reconcile API , on our own mailing list.
http://groups.google.com/group/openrefine/ <http://groups.google.com/group/openrefine/>
-Thad
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:18 AM AMIT KUMAR JAISWAL <amitkumarj441@gmail.com <mailto:amitkumarj441@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey Alina,
Thanks for letting us know about this.
I'll start testing it after configuring OpenRefine(as it's API is
implemented in WMF).
Can you share me the open task related to this?
Cheers,
Amit Kumar Jaiswal
On 1/26/17, Antonin Delpeuch (lists) <lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu <mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>> wrote:
Hi Magnus,
Mix'n'match looks great and I do have a few questions about it. I'd like
to use it to import a dataset, which looks like this (these are the 100
first lines):
http://pintoch.ulminfo.fr/34f8c4cf8a/aligned_institutions.txt <http://pintoch.ulminfo.fr/34f8c4cf8a/aligned_institutions.txt>
I see how to import it in Mix'n'match, but given all the columns I have
in this dataset, I think that it is a bit sad to resort to matching on
the name only.
Do you see any way to do some fuzzy-matching on, say, the URLs provided
in the dataset against the "official website" property? I think that it
would be possible with the (proposed) Wikidata interface for OpenRefine
(if I understand the UI correctly).
In this context, I think it might even be possible to confirm matches
automatically (when the matches are excellent on multiple columns). As
the dataset is rather large (400,000 lines) I would not really want to
validate them one after the other with the web interface. So I would
need a sort of batch edit. How would you do that?
Finally, once matches are found, it would be great if statements
corresponding to the various columns could be created in the items (if
these statements don't already exist). With the appropriate reference to
the dataset, ideally.
I realise this is a lot to ask - maybe I should just write a bot.
Alina, sorry to hijack your thread. I hope my questions were general
enough to be interesting for other readers.
Cheers,
Antonin
On 26/01/2017 16:01, Magnus Manske wrote:
If you want to match your list to Wikidata, to find which entries
already exist, have you considered Mix'n'match?
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/ <https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/>
You can upload your names and identifiers at
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/import.php <https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/import.php>
There are several mechanisms in place to help with the matching. Please
contact me if you need help!
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:58 PM Magnus Manske
<magnusmanske@googlemail.com <mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com> <mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com <mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com>>> wrote:
Alina, I just found your bug report, which you filed under the wrong
issue tracker. The git repo (source code, issue tracker etc.) are
here:
https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/reconcile <https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/reconcile>
The report says it "keeps hanging", which is so vague that it's
impossible to debug, especially since the example linked on
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-reconcile/ <https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-reconcile/>
works perfectly fine for me.
Does it not work at all for you? Does it work for a time, but then
stops? Does it "break" reproducibly on specific queries, or at
random? Maybe it breaks for specific "types" only? At what rate are
you hitting the tool? Do you have an example query, preferably one
that breaks?
Please note that this is not an "official" WMF service, only parts
of the API are implemented, and there are currently other technical
limitations on it.
Cheers,
Magnus
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:35 PM Antonin Delpeuch (lists)
<lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu <mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu> <mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu <mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>>> wrote:
Hi,
I'm also very interested in this. How did you configure your
OpenRefine
to use Wikidata? (Even if it does not currently work, I am
interested in
the setup.)
There is currently an open issue (with a nice bounty) to improve
the
integration of Wikidata in OpenRefine:
https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/805 <https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/805>
Best regards,
Antonin
On 26/01/2017 12:22, Alina Saenko wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have a question for people who are using the Wikidata
reconciliation
service: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-reconcile/ <https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-reconcile/> It was
working
perfectly in my Open Refine in november 2016, but since
december is
stopped working. I already have contacted Magnus Manske, but
he hasn’t
responded yet. Does anyone else experience problems with the
service and
know how to fix it?
I’m using this service to link big lists of Belgian artists
(37.000) and
performance art organisations (1.000) to Wikidata as a
preparation to
upload contextual data about these persons and organisations to
Wikidata. This data wil come from Kunstenpunt database
(http://data.kunsten.be/people <http://data.kunsten.be/people>). Wikimedia user Romaine
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine>) is helping us
with this
project.
Best regards,
Alina
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:13:27 +0000
From: "Antonin Delpeuch (lists)" <lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>
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Subject: Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata reconciliation service and Ope Refine
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Hi Magnus,
The dataset is essentially this one: http://isni.ringgold.com/
I am currently augmenting it with Ringgold IDs (P3500) using ORCID (this
should be completed in a few days). This alignment only adds two columns
(Ringgold ID and organization type) which should not impact the task of
matching it with Wikidata (as there are virtually no Ringgold IDs in
Wikidata yet).
Cheers,
Antonin
On 27/01/2017 09:18, Magnus Manske wrote:
Hi Antonin,
mix'n'match is designed to work with almost any dataset, thus uses the
common denominator, which is names, for matching.
There are mechanisms to match on other properties, but writing an
interface for public consumption for this would be a task that could
easily keep an entire team of programmers busy :-)
If you can give me the whole list to download, I will see what I can do
in terms of auxiliary data matching. Maybe a combination of that, manual
matches (or at least confirmations on name matches), and the OpenRefine
approach will give us maximum coverage.
It appears Kunstenpunt has no Wikidata property yet. Maybe Romaine could
star setting one up? That would help in terms of synchronisation, I believe.
Cheers,
Magnus
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 4:44 PM Antonin Delpeuch (lists)
<lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu <mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>> wrote:
Hi Magnus,
Mix'n'match looks great and I do have a few questions about it. I'd like
to use it to import a dataset, which looks like this (these are the 100
first lines):
http://pintoch.ulminfo.fr/34f8c4cf8a/aligned_institutions.txt
I see how to import it in Mix'n'match, but given all the columns I have
in this dataset, I think that it is a bit sad to resort to matching on
the name only.
Do you see any way to do some fuzzy-matching on, say, the URLs provided
in the dataset against the "official website" property? I think that it
would be possible with the (proposed) Wikidata interface for OpenRefine
(if I understand the UI correctly).
In this context, I think it might even be possible to confirm matches
automatically (when the matches are excellent on multiple columns). As
the dataset is rather large (400,000 lines) I would not really want to
validate them one after the other with the web interface. So I would
need a sort of batch edit. How would you do that?
Finally, once matches are found, it would be great if statements
corresponding to the various columns could be created in the items (if
these statements don't already exist). With the appropriate reference to
the dataset, ideally.
I realise this is a lot to ask - maybe I should just write a bot.
Alina, sorry to hijack your thread. I hope my questions were general
enough to be interesting for other readers.
Cheers,
Antonin
On 26/01/2017 16:01, Magnus Manske wrote:
If you want to match your list to Wikidata, to find which entries
already exist, have you considered Mix'n'match?
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/
You can upload your names and identifiers at
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/import.php
There are several mechanisms in place to help with the matching.
Please
contact me if you need help!
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:58 PM Magnus Manske
<magnusmanske@googlemail.com <mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com>
<mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com
<mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com>>> wrote:
Alina, I just found your bug report, which you filed under the
wrong
issue tracker. The git repo (source code, issue tracker etc.)
are here:
https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/reconcile
The report says it "keeps hanging", which is so vague that it's
impossible to debug, especially since the example linked on
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-reconcile/
works perfectly fine for me.
Does it not work at all for you? Does it work for a time, but then
stops? Does it "break" reproducibly on specific queries, or at
random? Maybe it breaks for specific "types" only? At what
rate are
you hitting the tool? Do you have an example query, preferably one
that breaks?
Please note that this is not an "official" WMF service, only parts
of the API are implemented, and there are currently other
technical
limitations on it.
Cheers,
Magnus
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:35 PM Antonin Delpeuch (lists)
<lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu <mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>
<mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu
<mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>>> wrote:
Hi,
I'm also very interested in this. How did you configure your
OpenRefine
to use Wikidata? (Even if it does not currently work, I am
interested in
the setup.)
There is currently an open issue (with a nice bounty) to
improve the
integration of Wikidata in OpenRefine:
https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/805
Best regards,
Antonin
On 26/01/2017 12:22, Alina Saenko wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have a question for people who are using the Wikidata
reconciliation
service: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-reconcile/
It was
working
perfectly in my Open Refine in november 2016, but since
december is
stopped working. I already have contacted Magnus Manske, but
he hasn’t
responded yet. Does anyone else experience problems with the
service and
know how to fix it?
I’m using this service to link big lists of Belgian artists
(37.000) and
performance art organisations (1.000) to Wikidata as a
preparation to
upload contextual data about these persons and
organisations to
Wikidata. This data wil come from Kunstenpunt database
(http://data.kunsten.be/people). Wikimedia user Romaine
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine) is helping us
with this
project.
Best regards,
Alina
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:44:52 +0000
From: "Antonin Delpeuch (lists)" <lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>
To: wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata reconciliation service and Ope Refine
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I have just rounded up the bounty to $300. This is a dream feature, we
need it! :)
Antonin
On 27/01/2017 13:12, Sandra Fauconnier wrote:
+1 from someone who would be so extremely happy (and much more
productive) if such a service were implemented in OpenRefine.
I also added it as a task to Phabricator, feel free to comment, add
suggestions… https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146740
Best, Sandra/User:Spinster
On 26 Jan 2017, at 19:00, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com
<mailto:thadguidry@gmail.com>> wrote:
Everyone,
Yes, our OpenRefine API can use Multiple Query Mode (reconciling an
Entity by using multiple columns/ WD properties)
https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/wiki/Reconciliation-Service-API#multiple-query-mode
I do not think that Magnus has implemented our Multiple Query Mode
yet, however.
The bounty issue https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/805
that I created and funded on BountySource.com
<http://BountySource.com> is to fully implement the Mutliple Query
Mode API and ensure that it works correctly in OpenRefine 2.6 RC2 latest.
Happy Hacking anyone :)
Let us know if we can answer any questions regarding OpenRefine or the
Reconcile API , on our own mailing list.
http://groups.google.com/group/openrefine/
-Thad
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:18 AM AMIT KUMAR JAISWAL
<amitkumarj441@gmail.com <mailto:amitkumarj441@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey Alina,
Thanks for letting us know about this.
I'll start testing it after configuring OpenRefine(as it's API is
implemented in WMF).
Can you share me the open task related to this?
Cheers,
Amit Kumar Jaiswal
On 1/26/17, Antonin Delpeuch (lists) <lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu
<mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>> wrote:
Hi Magnus,
Mix'n'match looks great and I do have a few questions about it.
I'd like
to use it to import a dataset, which looks like this (these are
the 100
first lines):
http://pintoch.ulminfo.fr/34f8c4cf8a/aligned_institutions.txt
I see how to import it in Mix'n'match, but given all the columns
I have
in this dataset, I think that it is a bit sad to resort to
matching on
the name only.
Do you see any way to do some fuzzy-matching on, say, the URLs
provided
in the dataset against the "official website" property? I think
that it
would be possible with the (proposed) Wikidata interface for
OpenRefine
(if I understand the UI correctly).
In this context, I think it might even be possible to confirm
matches
automatically (when the matches are excellent on multiple
columns). As
the dataset is rather large (400,000 lines) I would not really
want to
validate them one after the other with the web interface. So I would
need a sort of batch edit. How would you do that?
Finally, once matches are found, it would be great if statements
corresponding to the various columns could be created in the
items (if
these statements don't already exist). With the appropriate
reference to
the dataset, ideally.
I realise this is a lot to ask - maybe I should just write a bot.
Alina, sorry to hijack your thread. I hope my questions were general
enough to be interesting for other readers.
Cheers,
Antonin
On 26/01/2017 16:01, Magnus Manske wrote:
If you want to match your list to Wikidata, to find which entries
already exist, have you considered Mix'n'match?
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/
You can upload your names and identifiers at
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/import.php
There are several mechanisms in place to help with the
matching. Please
contact me if you need help!
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:58 PM Magnus Manske
<magnusmanske@googlemail.com
<mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com>
<mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com
<mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com>>> wrote:
Alina, I just found your bug report, which you filed under
the wrong
issue tracker. The git repo (source code, issue tracker
etc.) are
here:
https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/reconcile
The report says it "keeps hanging", which is so vague that it's
impossible to debug, especially since the example linked on
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-reconcile/
works perfectly fine for me.
Does it not work at all for you? Does it work for a time,
but then
stops? Does it "break" reproducibly on specific queries, or at
random? Maybe it breaks for specific "types" only? At what
rate are
you hitting the tool? Do you have an example query,
preferably one
that breaks?
Please note that this is not an "official" WMF service,
only parts
of the API are implemented, and there are currently other
technical
limitations on it.
Cheers,
Magnus
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:35 PM Antonin Delpeuch (lists)
<lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu
<mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>
<mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu
<mailto:lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu>>> wrote:
Hi,
I'm also very interested in this. How did you configure
your
OpenRefine
to use Wikidata? (Even if it does not currently work, I am
interested in
the setup.)
There is currently an open issue (with a nice bounty)
to improve
the
integration of Wikidata in OpenRefine:
https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/805
Best regards,
Antonin
On 26/01/2017 12:22, Alina Saenko wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have a question for people who are using the Wikidata
reconciliation
service:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-reconcile/ It was
working
perfectly in my Open Refine in november 2016, but since
december is
stopped working. I already have contacted Magnus
Manske, but
he hasn’t
responded yet. Does anyone else experience problems
with the
service and
know how to fix it?
I’m using this service to link big lists of Belgian
artists
(37.000) and
performance art organisations (1.000) to Wikidata as a
preparation to
upload contextual data about these persons and
organisations to
Wikidata. This data wil come from Kunstenpunt database
(http://data.kunsten.be/people). Wikimedia user Romaine
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine) is
helping us
with this
project.
Best regards,
Alina
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