Hello
*Really* not meaning to jump down any http-range-14 rabbit holes but wasn't there a plan for wikidata to have uris representing things and pages about those things?
From conversations on this list I sketched a picture a while back of all
the planned URIs: http://smethur.st/wp-uploads/2012/07/46159634-wikidata.png
Where http://wikidata.org/id/Qetc Was the "thing" uri (which you could point a foaf:PrimaryTopic at) and http://wikidata.org/wiki/Qetc
Was the document uri
Mainly asking not for the wikipedia > wikidata relationships but wondering if there's a more up to date picture of supported wikidata uri patterns and redirects?
Recently I was trying to find a way to programmatically get wikidata uris from wikipedia uris and tried various combinations of: http://wikidata.org/title/enwiki:Berlin http://en.wikidata.org/item/Berlin http://en.wikidata.org/title/Berlin
(all mentioned on the list / wiki) but all of them return a 404
Is the a way to do this?
Michael
On 26/02/2014 19:09, "Dan Brickley" danbri@danbri.org wrote:
On 26 February 2014 10:45, Joonas Suominen joonas.suominen@wikimedia.fi wrote:
How about using RDFa and foaf:primaryTopic like in this example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDFa#XHTML.2BRDFa_1.0_example
2014-02-26 20:18 GMT+02:00 Paul Houle ontology2@gmail.com:
Isn't there some way to do this with schema.org?
The FOAF options were designed for relations between entities and documents -
foaf:primaryTopic relates a Document to a thing that the doc is primarily about (i.e. assumes entity IDs as value, pedantically).
the inverse, foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf, was designed to allow an entity description in a random page to anchor itself against well known pages. In particular we had Wikipedia in mind.
http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_primaryTopic http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_isPrimaryTopicOf
(Both of these share a classic Semantic Web pickyness about distinguishing things from pages about those things).
Much more recently at schema.org we've added a new property/relationship called http://schema.org/sameAs
It relates an entity to a reference page (e.g. wikipedia) that can be used as a kind of proxy identifier for the real world thing that it describes. Not to be confused with owl:sameAs which is for saying "here are two ways of identifying the exact same real world entity".
None of these are a perfect fit for a relationship between a random Web page and a reference page. But maybe close enough?
Both FOAF and schema.org are essentially dictionaries of hopefully-useful terms, so you can use them in HTML head, or body, according to taste, policy, tooling etc. And you can choose a syntax (microdata, rdfa, json-ld etc.).
I'd recommend using the new schema.org 'sameAs', .e.g. in rdfa lite,
<link href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckingham_Palace" property="http://schema.org/sameAs" />
This technically says "the thing we're describing in the current element is Buckingham_Palace. If you want to be more explicit and say "this Web page is about a real world Place and that place is Buckingham_Palace ... you can do this too with a bit more nesting; the HTML body might be a better place for it.
Dan
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