There is no reason why we cannot have both. There are continuous activities
where play may not be that relevant, there is also the occasional stuff.
Where time for instance is of the essence.
I think the seriousness of Wiki* is vastly overrated and is often a self
On 7 February 2016 at 16:09, Sandra Fauconnier <sandra.fauconnier(a)gmail.com>
Wow, these are great links, Lydia, thanks.
I, for one, would warmly welcome more well-designed games, especially in
the distributed game framework that Magnus has built.
Not so much for the playfulness, but because it’s such an easy way to do
many useful edits without needing deep concentration, and because I find it
really interesting to see all the kind of content that we cover (the games
allow me to get out of the ‘filter bubble’ in which I usually edit, which
is the field of the visual arts).
Game-like tools that I would like to see, would include
- a sourcing game to add reference URLs from RKDartists to statements
related to artists (birth dates, death dates, places of birth and death,
- a nice and pleasant interface that allows me to state what is depicted
in an artwork
- a better game to add Thesaurus of Geograpic Names IDs to geographic
entities. The TGN is now in the distributed and ‘normal’ Mix’n’Match
version but is hard to match in these. It really needs a good interface
with a large map for ‘our’ items next to the more detailed geographical
info contained in the TGN (tree view; is it a city/river/mountain…)
A competition element, on the other hand, would really put me off. I don’t
care at all, I’m not in it for that and it would chase me away very quickly.
On 07 Feb 2016, at 10:00, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de>
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 11:08 PM David Abián <davidabian(a)wikimedia.es>
It's fantastic to see that we have such interesting tools to contribute
to Wikidata like Magnus' games.
With Wikidata Game and The Distributed Game as a base, I think we could
go further and get a tool that serve, not only as a game, but as a real
competition. In particular, with the following additions and a few
suggestions, I believe we could celebrate great /in situ/ Wikidata
competitions over the world:
* A chronometer with a start and a scheduled end while contributions are
registered for the contest.
* Some quorum (e.g., three) so that edits in the contest are only
applied to Wikidata if that quorum of people agrees on an answer.
* A scoring system that only provide points (or much more points) to
those who get a quorum. This avoids people answering randomly while they
destroy Wikidata and earn more and more points.
* A way to show the same questions to the quorum number of participants
during the competition.
* A real-time ranking in the competition scope.
* A way to manage the list of participants and to register an
administrator, or multiple ones, for every contest.
Would this be a good idea? Would anyone like to develop some of these
Please be aware that a large amount of gamification systems actually hurt
the community they are trying to build. They (usually) only work in the
short-term and make the situation worse in the longer-term. The way the
current Wikidata Game is doing it is very good.
Here are some articles to read up on this topic:
I can recommend the blog above for all kinds of interesting
research-backed information around communities.
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