On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com> wrote:
I think a name like "Linked Open Wikidata" would be better, since that is what I think you are talking about - linked open data with Wikidata items at the hub from which all other research questions should begin. Something like "Sum of all Data" in the sense that we already have a mini-framework set up for the "Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings": https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings

I think we are still talking about different things, so I will try to define what I believe is our primary use case here:

* Open data organization has a subset of interesting data that could be used to improve Wikimedia wikis after being added to Wikidata.

Use cases that we are NOT pursuing in this quarterly goal:

* Open data organization has a humongous amount of data to be injected entirely to Wikidata.
* Wikidata contributors start compiling a directory with the Sum of all Data.
* Wikidata/Commons contributors start building a Wikimedia version of http://datahub.io/

I also want to clarify the intended meaning of "Imagine GLAM applied to data." Over the years, GLAM has created documentation, campaigns, tools, success stories, a network of of volunteers and cultural organizations, and even some new jobs. Today, a Wikimedian living in a place with an interesting gallery/library/archive/museum (or someone working in any of these institutions) has a framework and a support network to learn how to establish a first contact and organize a first activity. We don't have an equivalent for open data. We can wait all this to be created organically as it happened with GLAM, but we can also help pushing the process reusing good lessons from GLAM and other initiatives.




 
The Wikiverse is always overly ambitious, and Wikidata is no exception. It would be nice to have all oil paintings from the world's top museums and national collections in there, as well as all paintings from the world's greatest artists.
Jane

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Quim Gil <qgil@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Thank you very much for this quick and very diverse wave of feedback. I'm trying to keep the description of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101950 up to date, and you are welcome to edit too.

The deliverable of this goal is basically documentation, so the first question is where should that documentation live. Somewhere under https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata: ? In Meta? In Outreach? Elsewhere? As soon as we have an answer we can start documenting on-wiki, business as usual.

We need a name for this "framework". It can be a working name used for practical reasons. I'm starting to use Wiki Loves Open Data / WLOD, but only in my brain (now it's the first time that I write it down). Please propose better alternatives if you have them.

For now we will keep the discussion here, but people willing to get involved as a contributor / stakeholder should get ready to follow the work in Phabricator. We will start with subtasks blocking T101950, jumping to an own project only if needed.

Some replies to feedback received:

* If you are involved or in touch with an open data organization, you are encouraged to add yourselves to "Organizations interested" at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101950. 

* Having real cases with real problems is the best way to focus on what really matters. There is a section "The problem" where we should list the problems that are blocking or making difficult fruitful contributions to Wikidata.

* Where to publish entire datasets... Something tells me that this is not the most urgent and important problem that we have, but the community definitely knows better, so correct me if I'm wrong. I think our main use case are organizations having certain types of data that would be great to have in Wikipedia via Wikidata. Whatever is the most urgent problem, we need to be very selective in the scope we want to address in this quarterly goal.

* The experience of maintainers of current projects like ProteinBoxBot is very very useful. Please do not hesitate getting into details, creating subtasks to address specific problems, etc.

* Scott, I have the impression that we need to define this framework a bit before projects like yours can jump in and find their ways for contributing. I don't have a good reply to you right now, and this goal is precisely about offering a framework useful to you, useful to Wikimedia.

Looking forward to your feedback and to start editing on a wiki page soon. 

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Info WorldUniversity <info@worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote:
Hi Quim, Sylvia, Lydia and Wikidatans, 

In terms of strategic partnerships with CC Wikidata, and this Wikidata Engineering Community project looking for -

 "* people that have been in touch with organizations willing to contribute their open data" - 

in what ways could CC World University and School contribute our early CC Nation State Universities, e.g. Mexico World University and School - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Mexico - (with only the CC MIT OCW in Spanish so far, and not yet in Spanish otherwise)? See also, for example, the Nation States' wiki subject page at WUaS - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Nation_States. Each wiki Nation-State University at CC WUaS, seeks to accredit in each country in their main languags to offer online CC baccalaureate, Ph.D., Law and M.D. degrees, and also I.B. high school degrees, if possible, based on CC MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC, to begin. 

In addition, CC World University would like to facilitate wiki / Wikidata schools for open teaching and learning in each of all 7,929+ languages. As planned interlingual wiki schools for highest quality universal education, CC World University and School would like to explore developing in Wikidata, and become a growth story also for Wikidata. World University would thus like to explore contributing our open data in these regards. 

In what ways might WUaS best contribute in terms of a strategic partnerships re this Wikidata Engineering Community project ? Perhaps World University could become a part of the"community framework allowing Wikidata content and tech contributors, data engineers, and open data organizations to collaborate effectively." Thank you.

Best, 
Info (Scott)



On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Benjamin Good <ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com> wrote:
Quim,

I'm not familiar with GLAM or what you are really asking for here.  Could you elaborate a little?  Our group is actively engaged in writing bots for populating wikidata with trusted biomedical information and for using that information to drive applications such as Wikipedia.  Processes for making this easier would be most welcome.  A lot of what we are doing and hoping to do is described on this bot page:

?
-Ben



On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:23 AM, David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Quim,

There was always the issue of where to publish datasets from partner organisations like a http://datahub.io/

Is that being considered in this new iteration?

Cheers,
Micru

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Quim,

We have in Belgium (as Wikimedia Belgium) a partner organisation who is together with us working with cultural institutions to get open datasets to be used in Wikidata.

So yes, we are interested.

Greetings,
Romaine

2015-07-01 17:31 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil <qgil@wikimedia.org>:
Hi, it's first of July and I would like to introduce you a quarterly goal that the Engineering Community team has committed to:

Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations

We are missing a community framework allowing Wikidata content and tech contributors, data engineers, and open data organizations to collaborate effectively. Imagine GLAM applied to data. 

If all goes well, by the end of September we would like to have basic documentation and community processes for open data engineers and organizations willing to contribute to Wikidata, and ongoing projects with one open data org.

If you are interested, get involved! We are looking for 

* Wikidata contributors with good institutional memory
* people that has been in touch with organizations willing to contribute their open data
* developers willing to help improving our software and programming missing pieces
* also contributors familiar with the GLAM model(s), what works and what didn't work

This goal has been created after some conversations with Lydia Pintscher (Wikidata team) and Sylvia Ventura (Strategic Partnerships). Both are on board, Lydia assuring that this work fits into what is technically effective, and Sylvia checking our work against real open data organizations willing to get involved.

This email effectively starts the bootstrapping of this project. I will start creating subtasks under that goal based on your feedback and common sense.

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