> I'm very confused now.  Can anyone shed some light on what best practice should
be then?

Wikidata is confusing and not mature, it's sometime hard to put best pratices and a work of every day /o\. I guess this will be settled only when the data will be used and when we will have a decent query engine, or reasonable constraints about the subject.

I don't personnaly really care if the same kind of datas are stored with the same pattern (the best model) but it's not always easy to decide and there is a lot to do before we really become confident with the choice we make. The time where the query engine will be ready and fully operational will be a great help and will ease to normalize the datas and we will know which query are the most elegant, which models are resonably general to limit the number of patterns used in Wikidata. This time has not came yet imho.


2014-06-16 20:49 GMT+02:00 Derric Atzrott <datzrott@alizeepathology.com>:
> When you have an item like "mayor of Pebbles minor", you can make qualifiers
> like predecessor and successor, start date and end date. When every town has
> the same mayor, no such functionality is possible.

Start and end date are possible still as are predecessor and successor.

See Q17202594 which is one of the former mayors of Frederick and has all of
those qualifiers on him.  Unless you meant on the city, in which case I am
slowing working towards that on Q472675 as well under "head of government".

Or am I misunderstanding you?

> It is even said in the notability criteria that if we can clearly identify the
> concept, ... Mayor office of cities are amongst these identifiable items.

You've got me there.  I could live with every city having a mayor item then.
That still makes me wonder what the purpose of the "of" qualifier is in
relation to "position held".

Looking at the "position held" docs, n the example given they use:
Barrack Obama -> Position Held -> United State Senator -> of -> United States
Senate.

This seems to be somewhat redundant information as the fact that he was "of"
the United States Senate seems to be implied by the very definition of being
a United States Senator.  To recast it in terms of mayor, it would be like
saying Mayor of Frederick in Frederick.

I'm very confused now.  Can anyone shed some light on what best practice should
be then?

Thank you,
Derric Atzrott


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